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Either the papers reporting that Madrid turned down 80m from us are wrong or the papers reporting they agreed on 58m with Chelsea are wrong. It just can't be both.
Or Madrid playing bitter due to the De Gea situation, and still wanting De Gea...
 

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Doesn't really matter, no-one can refuse to sell to Madrid really (barring Barca), its probably the only club in the world that can generally sign any player they want and players view it as the pinnacle. Moving Madrid to United is a step down, very unlikely a starter at Madrid would want to move to United.
By the way , Cristiano Ronaldo stepped down from United to Madrid during that time.

United historically have never bought from Madrid , because we always have had better or equal quality players any way.
 

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Why would they be bitter about that? United agreed to sell and they fecked up the admin? Seems mad if they blame United for that.
you seriously believe the "messed up the admin" story ? the official word was problem with the fax machine, basically United had no intention of selling and purposely switched their fax machine off because Madrid were messing about with the bids.
 

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you seriously believe the "messed up the admin" story ? the official word was problem with the fax machine, basically United had no intention of selling and purposely switched their fax machine off because Madrid were messing about with the bids.
Why on earth would they go though the bother with farting about with fax machines? They'd just say "he's not for sale" if they didn't want to sell.
 

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Or Madrid playing bitter due to the De Gea situation, and still wanting De Gea...
Don't think they'd lose 20m due to playing bitter. They also could have used the Milan interest to push up the price here.
 

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Only Chelsea would pay 80- 85 m euros.
It is the same price we would have paid including add-ons and bonus payments, just that when it is Chelsea the additional payments aren't reported straight up in the initial fee like it is with us.

Madrid wouldn't take a 20m slice off the fee for a player with multiple clubs interested.
 

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Why on earth would they go though the bother with farting about with fax machines? They'd just say "he's not for sale" if they didn't want to sell.
madrid were making bids all summer but no where near the record fee United were demanding for a GK, Madrid thought they would get him for the cheap because he was about to go into his final season of his contract and United would accept £20 odd million for him. United turned the fax machine off

United used that against madrid told De Gea that if Madrid really wanted him that much they would have made the record bid for him(beating Buffons fee) because of the class of keeper De Gea is. De Gea felt disrespected and signed a new 5 year contract at United next week.
 

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It is the same price we would have paid including add-ons and bonus payments, just that when it is Chelsea the additional payments aren't reported straight up in the initial fee like it is with us.

It is the same for every transfer for other clubs \ us.
Yep exactly. Even with city's Bernardo Silva transfer addones are not reported.

But the whole media gets bezerk and writes headline " what a waste of money for martial with 80 m euros fee reported.
 

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madrid were making bids all summer but no where near the record fee United were demanding for a GK, Madrid thought they would get him for the cheap because he was about to go into his final season of his contract and United would accept £20 odd million for him. United turned the fax machine off

United used that against madrid told De Gea that if Madrid really wanted him that much they would have made the record bid for him(beating Buffons fee) because of the class of keeper De Gea is. De Gea felt disrespected and signed a new 5 year contract at United next week.
United don't turn fax machine off :lol:
 

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I do not believe there was a fax machine involved (do they still use that?!). From the reports back then, Real had a problem with the FIFA registration system or whatever it was.
 

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madrid were making bids all summer but no where near the record fee United were demanding for a GK, Madrid thought they would get him for the cheap because he was about to go into his final season of his contract and United would accept £20 odd million for him. United turned the fax machine off

United used that against madrid told De Gea that if Madrid really wanted him that much they would have made the record bid for him(beating Buffons fee) because of the class of keeper De Gea is. De Gea felt disrespected and signed a new 5 year contract at United next week.
The two clubs agreed a deal but the registration documents were submitted too late to go though. United didn't "turn the fax machine off"!!!!!
 

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I do not believe there was a fax machine involved (do they still use that?!). From the reports back then, Real had a problem with the FIFA registration system or whatever it was.
Yeah it's an online portal. Each club has its own access code. Madrid had been fannying about all day and they registered the transfer at their end a few minutes after midnight so the deal couldn't go through.

I'm pretty sure it's been well documented, with detailed time-lines.

The fax machine reference was undoubtedly a joke someone made off the cuff, which has grown a life of its own.
 

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The problem was that in England you can buy a player after the deadline as long as you can show progress in certain aspects of the deal.
In Spain its either completed or not. I honestly think we played silly beggars not realising Spain operated on a stricter schedule
 

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The problem was that in England you can buy a player after the deadline as long as you can show progress in certain aspects of the deal.
In Spain its either completed or not. I honestly think we played silly beggars not realising Spain operated on a stricter schedule
The problem was navas also who took age long to sign papers and also dint abord the plane to united but we were in no wrong.
 

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The problem was navas also who took age long to sign papers and also dint abord the plane to united but we were in no wrong.
That´s one of the versions that I heard. Navas agent delaying the signature.
 

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I can't even deal with this right now. Unbelievable.
 

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Whatever the reason for De Gea's botched transfer, I just get the feeling that LVG did affect it in some way, considering the type of character he is. Thank you LVG. :wenger:

Take note, LVG is the man on the right in this photo. Never forget!

 

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madrid were making bids all summer but no where near the record fee United were demanding for a GK, Madrid thought they would get him for the cheap because he was about to go into his final season of his contract and United would accept £20 odd million for him. United turned the fax machine off

United used that against madrid told De Gea that if Madrid really wanted him that much they would have made the record bid for him(beating Buffons fee) because of the class of keeper De Gea is. De Gea felt disrespected and signed a new 5 year contract at United next week.
:lol::lol:
 

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you seriously believe the "messed up the admin" story ? the official word was problem with the fax machine, basically United had no intention of selling and purposely switched their fax machine off because Madrid were messing about with the bids.
Never mind the fact that Madrid left it until the final day of the window to put the offer in, they were twattish in the timing of the bid and we reciprocated.
 

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By the way , Cristiano Ronaldo stepped down from United to Madrid during that time.

United historically have never bought from Madrid , because we always have had better or equal quality players any way.
I imagine he viewed it as a step up, regardless of the situation at the time, hence why he was so desperate to go. It isn't a dig at United in any way either, just how things are. United haven't bought from Madrid, because no-one in the first team ever wants to leave. Madrid have bought from United though, and almost always first teamers.
 

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Why are people so obsessed with transfer fees? Who cares if Chelsea got him for lesser price than what we offered? The only one who lost out on is Real Madrid as they could've made more profit had they not haggled over €10million Euros, they are eventually selling him for a lesser fee.

As for the transfer itself, fee has little impact. To me Morata is moving to a club which suits his play style better and same goes for Lukaku with us.
 

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Whatever the reason for De Gea's botched transfer, I just get the feeling that LVG did affect it in some way, considering the type of character he is. Thank you LVG. :wenger:

Take note, LVG is the man on the right in this photo. Never forget!

What the hell. I hope that's his partner, at least. Would make it less sexist.
 

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I imagine he viewed it as a step up, regardless of the situation at the time, hence why he was so desperate to go. It isn't a dig at United in any way either, just how things are. United haven't bought from Madrid, because no-one in the first team ever wants to leave. Madrid have bought from United though, and almost always first teamers.
Absolutely not , footballing wise he stepped down from United to Madrid,its was just telling case of him wanting to live with his family with his new kid from English mother apprantly and move to his culture in Spain. He signed a new contract on fergies word and fergie was a man of his word with United ethics. We could have pretty much blocked any sale with a contract he had.

Also United haven't bought from Madrid because we dint need to anyway. We always had world beaters in our team with a super strong winner like fergie sometimes better players than Madrid in many positions, we absolutely don't have to look for the players in Madrid squad.

And the players United sold were all cast outs which fergie wanted to get rid anyway with Beckham with his shoe incident , rvn having a spat where United already had Rooney and Ronaldo in the team who were better than rvn and heienze who failed to make a mark in England and United sold because of evra who proved way better again. Madrid have not bought any players except Ronaldo which we wanted to keep rather only those we wanted to get rid off.
 
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@D2Z is another Orc, Chelsea fan pretending to support United. I just looked at his previous posts and he couldn't make it anymore obvious

80% of them must be about Chelsea or moaning about United/Mourinho
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Were you this bad?

Chelscum? Arscum? Shame.
In this forum alone you can find Chelsea fans that are not cocky about winning the title.

You dont need to adventure further beyond this forum.
WE are cocky about 4th. Im not a Chelsea fan.
You're criminally underrating Hazard. The only one above his level on that list are Messi, CR7, Suarez and arguably Neymar. If I had to take Neymar or Hazard on top form, it would be Eden.
Everyone else is either on his level or below him.

I dislike Eden for what happened when he joined Chelsea, but lets not put on red tinted specs mate. He is an amazing player.
I disagree. If Hazard had Barcelonas team he would have a lot better stats. Hazards peak is higher then Neymar for me. People underestimate how much Hazard gets fouled. He constantly has at least 2 people on him, while Neymar has freedom in Barcelona.

To add on top, an inform Hazard is the epitome of the beautiful game.
Mourinho better then Conte, like feck he is. Im absolutely gutted.
Ill bite your hand off for the victory!
We aint 6th no more baby!
Feck me for a wingback Alonso scores so much. This Chelsea is absolutely ruthless....
Congratulations to Chelsea FC!!!


Well deserved. An absolute machine of a team.
Odd thing to say about Chelsea. Spurs in the other hand yeah....
By that mentality and way its been going since Roman Abramovic and the retirement of SirAF, its our time to be knocked off the perch by Chelsea.


Roman is to Chelsea what Sir AF was to us.
Chelsea were wrecked with the flu that day and the Alonso last minute injury in warmup before the game really threw them off-balance.
AVB is that you? How's China?
We tend to ignore posts that make sense regarding our opponents. Its a Man Utd forum afterall!
But he did. Costa deserves it for being so vile and almost derailing your season.
Im willing to bet you Chelsea will get him instead. Are you confident enough? Caf donation for the loser?
Take it from someone whos watched Lindelof all year, he isnt anything special.
Mind you i cant speak much about Rudiger, but in the Confed cup he was sublime.
Thats damning from Mourinho. Pretty much says Lukaku was 2nd choice.
Sigh...... they got the better striker for sure.
I can't even deal with this right now. Unbelievable.
 

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His interview is full of shit. Conte wanted me and I owe him the most in my career. He was managed by Conte for a grand total of one month.
 
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