[MadMike]

Thats what fecked him under Ole.

To be fair that was 2 seasons ago. He's not carrying injuries due to last season, he's had time to fully recuperate.

I don't think the problem is that he refuses to play injured, for what it's worth. ETH has alluded to the opposite, in fact. I don't think him playing injured is good for either us or the player, anyway. The problem is simply that he's injured too damn often nowadays.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Martial is 27 and it's best time of career to play regularly. Meanwhile this season, Sancho despite personal problems & Garnacho youngster clocked more minutes than him and the gap could extend over next weeks.

Lad will revive himself this season or in next campaign chaps like Pellistri or Amad could get more time on the pitch than him. One thing I noticed, is Erik saying we have to be patient when speaking week ago to the media. Perhaps there's a good chance of something great to happen.

2nd leg vs Barca at OT next week or final vs Newcastle near the end of the month would be perfect if he can make it. If not then we have to assume we can't rely that much on our main number 9 in key moments. All we have is a stop gap Wout and that's it... Even football machine like Rashford could sometimes use a rest in between scoring and taking all responsibility in attack.

Not gonna shit on Ole, but instead of giving Martial some good rival for place in the squad who also provide vital emergency option, he flooded squad with whole brigade of retire home residents.

If some sheikh won't go bankrupt, trying to fix our striker department, that will be a lucky start.

 

[Shimo]

I was cursing him yesterday for not being available. We had no options for the CBs or when Sabitzer dropped deeper to play the ball into midfield. A big plus that Martial brings over the other 9s we have is just that, to receive that ball, pull CBs and midfielders out of position and bring others into play. Once Weghorst was moved to provide that target/outlet more, we did a lot better.

Hope we can some how manage to keep relatively fit after he gets over whatever latest issue is. This summer though, our top priority has to be a striker, when Martial is playing he elevates this team and a top 9 that can be relied on, even this season would probably see us even closer to the top than we are now.

 

[criticalanalysis]

He's doing the same now then isn't he?

Starting games,clearly not fit,coming off early and/or being unavailable for the next game.

Being not match fit and playing with injury are two different things although it's a regular occurrence for professional footballers.

The issue is that he felt he was overplayed by Ole as he wanted to do best for the manager and the team; conversely the manager took his word for it and played him, which in itself is fine but Martial felt betrayed or something to that effect when he was criticised for being out of the game afterwards. Today, he's more broken but playing as and only when he's feels he can. ETH has been very consistent about match sharpness/fitness (McT starting over Casemiro, VDB, playing his starters in most games, Sancho getting time off etc).

 

[Garethw]

Another match day squad that doesn’t include him. I cannot wait to get a good quality, reliable centre forward.

 

[Glorio]

Disclaimer:
Shameless conspiracy theory incoming from a Martial FC highest security level card holder:


Martial is not injury prone at all. We are skint and can't pay the appearance-per-season related add ons attached to his purchase which actually take his price up to £58M and will cause us to fall foul of FFP. The "board" have thus installed a stooge in the medical department to assign a random injury to him whenever there's a danger that he hits any of those milestones.

Ronaldo was the initial solution to prevent Martial performances (which is why the club strangely refused to let him leave earlier), but it became obvious quite quickly that he was an insufficient solution.

EtH needs him for the run-in and has agreed with the board that they should pull their stooge if he's within 5 points of the league leaders with 10 games to go. (10 + whatever his appearance record is now = just below the threshold)

Martial being the consummate, unselfish professional and company man on his part has grudgingly agreed to this.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Disclaimer:
Shameless conspiracy theory incoming from a Martial FC highest security level card holder:


Martial is not injury prone at all. We are skint and can't pay the appearance-per-season related add ons attached to his purchase which actually take his price up to £58M and will cause us to fall foul of FFP. The "board" have thus installed a stooge in the medical department to assign a random injury to him whenever there's a danger that he hits any of those milestones.

Ronaldo was the initial solution to prevent Martial performances (which is why the club strangely refused to let him leave earlier), but it became obvious quite quickly that he was an insufficient solution.

EtH needs him for the run-in and has agreed with the board that they should pull their stooge if he's within 5 points of the league leaders with 10 games to go. (10 + whatever his appearance record is now = just below the threshold)

Martial being the consummate, unselfish professional and company man on his part has grudgingly agreed to this.

Wow that's some jump to conclusions I love it

 

[Aint gota Kalou]

Disclaimer:
Shameless conspiracy theory incoming from a Martial FC highest security level card holder:


Martial is not injury prone at all. We are skint and can't pay the appearance-per-season related add ons attached to his purchase which actually take his price up to £58M and will cause us to fall foul of FFP. The "board" have thus installed a stooge in the medical department to assign a random injury to him whenever there's a danger that he hits any of those milestones.

Ronaldo was the initial solution to prevent Martial performances (which is why the club strangely refused to let him leave earlier), but it became obvious quite quickly that he was an insufficient solution.

EtH needs him for the run-in and has agreed with the board that they should pull their stooge if he's within 5 points of the league leaders with 10 games to go. (10 + whatever his appearance record is now = just below the threshold)

Martial being the consummate, unselfish professional and company man on his part has grudgingly agreed to this.

I agree with this. Also we won't have to pay his balon dor fee

 

[MiceOnMeth]

We're playing well even with Weghorst up top just Imagine how good we'd look if this fecker could stay fit. Any news on when he's back?

 

[Dominos]

We're playing well even with Weghorst up top just Imagine how good we'd look if this fecker could stay fit. Any news on when he's back?

If we could have him fit for the rest of the season I'd start to believe a title charge was on. Such a shame we've got so few minutes out of him.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

I wonder if watching the lesser talented Rashford be the current best in the world will give him a kick up the ass to get and stay fit.

Probably not. He just lacks intensity and desire and always will.

A shame. Just like Saha the talent and physical tools are just off the charts. Get on the fecking pitch.

 

[Jev]

We're playing well even with Weghorst up top just Imagine how good we'd look if this fecker could stay fit. Any news on when he's back?

Sounded like he was close from ETH's pre-match comments but you never know with him. What a difference it would make to swap Wout for him.

 

[kouroux]

I wonder if watching the lesser talented Rashford be the current best in the world will give him a kick up the ass to get and stay fit.

Probably not. He just lacks intensity and desire and always will.

A shame. Just like Saha the talent and physical tools are just off the charts. Get on the fecking pitch.

Come on, Martial isn't injured because he wants it to be. How long are we gonna keep peddling this nonsense when the manager says he has seen Martial work very hard

 

[Still ill]

Sounded like he was close from ETH's pre-match comments but you never know with him. What a difference it would make to swap Wout for him.

Well certainly I'm interested to see what we look like. I'm a big fan of a fit and firing Tony but the huge work that Weghorst puts in is not nothing and may be missed.

 

[AltiUn]

Come on, Martial isn't injured because he wants it to be. How long are we gonna keep peddling this nonsense when the manager says he has seen Martial work very hard

For sure. He's probably desperate to be back and he's been really good when he has had the chance to play.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Got to sell him in the summer if possible and upgrade. Good player but never fit.

 

[The Corinthian]

Is he dead

 

[MadMike]

Is he dead

To me he is

 

[croadyman]

Keep him for League Cup Final on Sunday,remember he likes a goal at Wembley albeit that was back in 2016

 

[Mainoldo]

Fingers crossed we can atleast get 10 games out of him for the rest of the season.

 

[Santoryo]

I feel bad for him. He clearly fit well in this team and Ten Hag seems to love him but unfortunately he just can't stay fit. Would have had a heck of a season and probably would have help us push for the title race but it is what it is.

I've kind of lost hope in him staying fit for any considerable amount of time. Seems like every part of his body is breaking down one after the other. Sad to see a talented player get wrecked like this by injuries.

Sounded like he was close from ETH's pre-match comments but you never know with him. What a difference it would make to swap Wout for him.

This is what makes me even sadder. With Sancho's return to form, Rashford in the form of his career, Garnacho youth and explosiveness albeit inconsistent, Antony, Bruno and you add an in form Martial, that's a heck of an attacking roster that could play you champagne football under Ten Hag. Fingers crossed he makes it out for the rest of the season since we'll need everybody to compete and all these fronts we're in.

 

[dpansheth]

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Numbers dont lie.
Harry is our 4th choice & Martial needs to go. end of it.

 

[RuudTom83]

Weghorst already has more minutes this season that Martial.

Thank god the big man is here to help Rashford carry the load.

Would be nice if Martial can make an appearance against Newcastle.

 

[Red Royal]

Weghorst already has more minutes this season that Martial.

Thank god the big man is here to help Rashford carry the load.

Would be nice if Martial can make an appearance against Newcastle.

Right now I'd prefer Wout Weghorst with the Wembley Winner.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

What kind of injuries has he had? A fit Martial would give us some options.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Hopefully he coming back fully fit, bringing in Weghorst was good to allow him to recover fully instead of playing for 30-60 mins through injury.
This lad is a level above all the guys we are being linked to. The media pushing for us to sell him are leading us an awful way. If they think Kane is the right guy, let him come and compete.
I had high hopes for him this season and equally disappointed because of his injuries. The up side, he has a lot more years of football at the top level. We’ve not even seen the very best of him yet.

 

[morree]

Honestly ive personally lost hope in Martial at this point, the guy is made of glass and is never available. Done get me wrong he is a decent player but if he is only available for 10ish games a season what good is he to us. He needs to be moved on in the summer, But at the same time what club in their right mind would take an injury prone player like him with the crazy wages he is on on top of that, we're most likely stuck with him and he'll be stealing a living until his contract runs out. More shit business from united that will most likely come back and haunt us, although i hope i'm wrong and that he can turn it around and be available more often.

 

[Ayoba]

Weghorst already has more minutes this season that Martial.

Thank god the big man is here to help Rashford carry the load.

Would be nice if Martial can make an appearance against Newcastle.

WOW thats an incredible stat! I really hope we see the back of him at the end of the season, I think we've all had enough of him now after 8 years.

 

[Ole's screen]

Weghorst already has more minutes this season that Martial.

Thank god the big man is here to help Rashford carry the load.

Would be nice if Martial can make an appearance against Newcastle.

And Martial has still scored 6 times as many goals as Weghorst.

 

[izak]

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Numbers dont lie.
Harry is our 4th choice & Martial needs to go. end of it.

You mean 5th choice, I bet Luke Shaw would play ahead of him even if he was fit last week in Barcelona.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

I think Ten Hag said he’s back in individual training, still needs to do team training.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

And Martial has still scored 6 times as many goals as Weghorst.

Considering how deep Weghorst has been asked to play for most of those minutes that isn’t surprising.

 

[Borys]

And Martial has still scored 6 times as many goals as Weghorst.

I dare to say we've not seen fully fit Martial this season. Honestly we will be lucky to get this quality backup striker next season (he will not be main striker).
Martial quality is hardly relevant if he can't stay fit.

 

[RuudTom83]

And Martial has still scored 6 times as many goals as Weghorst.

True, my post was really about taking a bump on Martial.

But it will be interesting to see when Martial comes back how the team compares to the current one with the pressing/presence of Weghorst.

Sadly i dont think it is a problem for EtH as we all know Martial would only be back for an hour so the experiment would be short lived.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

He’s the heir to the Jones’ throne.

 

[MadMike]

Considering how deep Weghorst has been asked to play for most of those minutes that isn’t surprising.

He has played ~800 minutes for us so far. From those, in only the last 180 minutes against Barca and Leicester did he play a portion of the game as an Attacking Mid or Support Striker. And even then not whole game. You're making it sound like he has played 3/4s of his time as a DM or something. That's a pretty poor defence of his (lack of) effectiveness in front of goal.

 

[CM]

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Numbers dont lie.
Harry is our 4th choice & Martial needs to go. end of it.

Wow, pretty crazy that Weghorst has already played more minutes than Martial this season.

 

[DWelbz19]

Considering how deep Weghorst has been asked to play for most of those minutes that isn’t surprising.

Weghorst could spend the entire game in the 6 yard box and he’s not bagging

 

[Glorio]

Considering how deep Weghorst has been asked to play for most of those minutes that isn’t surprising.

That's only been the case for 2 games

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Weghorst could spend the entire game in the 6 yard box and he’s not bagging

I mean, he’s already bagged one goal but ok.