AFTV/AM '17/'18: A New Hope

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As a MUFC supporter, I pray to God that Wenger stays.
As long as he is at AFC, we won't need to compete against AFC for the title.
I'll be gutted if/when we finally get our act together, we finish in 2nd place, with them in 1st.

I wrote this about 3 weeks ago.
Nothing has changed - I want Wenger to stay. ;)
 
I think Claude is so defeated he's gotten to a point he can't be anymore negative that he's actually trying to be a positive. He mentioned something about a "Wenger rap" and how should have been invited on it with DT and Troopz :lol::D
 
Claude loves the Arsenal the way every true fan should love their clubs and players.
 
If Wenger got sacked tomorrow (he won't obviously) it wouldn't be wrong or an overreaction. That performance over 2 legs against Bayern is the most embarrassing capitulation I've ever seen at a club with the profile, finances and player quality of Arsenal, whic was sandwiched in between another embarrassing performance at Liverpool. Even under Moyes with a disjointed, low on morale squad managed by a fool we put up more of a fight than that.

Arsenal supporters have every right to want Wenger out immediately after that.
 
Posted by an AM member before tonight's game:

'Bigger picture.
As Milan 4 Arsenal 0
Bolton 2 Arsenal 1 chance to close the gap On United to 6 points with 4 games left
Man City 6 Arsenal 3
Knocked out by Bradford
Arsenal 2 Spurs 3 opportunity lost to leap frog Chelaea at the top
Arsenal 0 Blackburn 1 in the FA cup 1/4 final. Blackburn had only won 3 away games in the Championship upto that point. But turned up at the Emirates and beat us.
League cup final vs Birmingham
United 6 Arsenal 1
Liverpool 5 Arsenal 1
Spurs 5 Arsenal 1 league cup semi final second leg
Arsenal 1 Monaco 3
Arsenal 2 Olympiakos 3
Chelaea 6 Arsenal 0
United 8 Arsenal 2

Now that's the worst results according to the Telegraph. Some awful repeat patterns and that's not including results against Barcelona, Bayern, Liverpool this season the defeats against City as well. Or coming second in a league won by a team that barely survived relegation and having all your traditional rivals capitulate with one manager sacked mid season another having being confirmed he won't be staying on and another out of his depth that he was sacked at the end of the season.

What I think is fairly Damning this season, aside from our dreadful results against top teams, is that when we spanked Chelsea they basically changed everything. Lessons were learnt quickly and they transformed themselves completely. We on the other hand have never evolved, never changed and as those results show we've received spankings several times we've also crashed to way lower opposition in big games. Once is forgivable but it's a repeat pattern. That's the big picture.'
 
There is almost zero chance that they are making 73k per month. That's just a very high estimate assuming a significant proportion of subscribers and viewers are clicking every sponsor link ( if they exist) and a number of sponsors have signed up given the base.
He gets 10-12 million views monthly. That's at least $10-$12k monthly (least payment is $1 per 1000 views). He's also got one or two sponsors. I'd imagine he makes up to $15k monthly off the channel. Still not enough to buy a Rolls Royce though.

Also, the Arsenal board need to pull the 2 year contract they've given to Wenger.

























And offer him a 5 year contract instead. Wenger In.
 
Has any team taken the amount of pastings Arsenal have from other big teams? Us, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Liverpool have smashed at least 5 past them over the last few years.

And that's ignoring the hidings they've taken in Europe.
 
Now imagine if the refs didn't help them with the 2 handball goals and the last min pen vs Soton, thats 6 points less and they'd be 7th level on points with Everton :wenger:
 
He gets 10-12 million views monthly. That's at least $10-$12k monthly (least payment is $1 per 1000 views). He's also got one or two sponsors. I'd imagine he makes up to $15k monthly off the channel. Still not enough to buy a Rolls Royce though.

Also, the Arsenal board need to pull the 2 year contract they've given to Wenger.

@crappycraperson is correct
 
Just watched their snapchat and Ty is there with the rest of them chatting, even inside with them while Robbie is editing. Not sure why there's no video of him.

In typical fashion the clip on snapchat did show him saying that they were in the game and playing well up until they went down to 10 men.
 
Posted by an AM member before tonight's game:

'Bigger picture.
As Milan 4 Arsenal 0
Bolton 2 Arsenal 1 chance to close the gap On United to 6 points with 4 games left
Man City 6 Arsenal 3
Knocked out by Bradford
Arsenal 2 Spurs 3 opportunity lost to leap frog Chelaea at the top
Arsenal 0 Blackburn 1 in the FA cup 1/4 final. Blackburn had only won 3 away games in the Championship upto that point. But turned up at the Emirates and beat us.
League cup final vs Birmingham
United 6 Arsenal 1
Liverpool 5 Arsenal 1
Spurs 5 Arsenal 1 league cup semi final second leg
Arsenal 1 Monaco 3
Arsenal 2 Olympiakos 3
Chelaea 6 Arsenal 0
United 8 Arsenal 2

They are forgetting to add being beaten by us at Old Trafford last season to close the gap on Leicester when we basically had half a team fit and were playing the under 21s.

I watched Troopz and DTs videos last night, wasn't really much that you could argue with, then couldn't watch anymore at that point. It is becoming a pretty amusing habit of watching them after they lose to be fair. :)
 
Realistically, based on views its probably around 70-100K/year.
Not bad at all.
Obviously Robbie will be eager to keep the view count as high as possible. If Wenger goes then the meltdowns may not be as frequent although I feel as though I have got to know the likes of DT, Troopz, Ty and Claude so I will carry on watching unless it is boring.
Then again if Arsenal do replace Wenger and have a major rebuilding period like United have had then we may see a even more severe lack of success which may produce bigger meltdowns.
 
He gets 10-12 million views monthly. That's at least $10-$12k monthly (least payment is $1 per 1000 views). He's also got one or two sponsors. I'd imagine he makes up to $15k monthly off the channel. Still not enough to buy a Rolls Royce though.

Also, the Arsenal board need to pull the 2 year contract they've given to Wenger.
That's more than enough to own a Roller.

8/10 people in the UK finance cars.
 
That's more than enough to own a Roller.

8/10 people in the UK finance cars.
I don't know why I always automatically assume that people who buy luxury cars pay full price once and drive off. Must be because I ain't got that kinda money yet so I can't relate. :lol:
 
Can´t listen more than two minutes to troopz. My ears are in blud
 
Forfeiting the next tie would improve Arsenal's stats against Bayern at this point.
 
AM said:
As a Liverpool fan, yes I also knew its like "almost" impossible for Arsenal to win 4-0 last night. But I really really hope its only the penalty, not a red card. Seemed like a match-fixing thing, involved lots of money this inbred reffing.

Can you imagine the second 45 minutes you all were playing with full 11 men, thats enjoyable, confidence display, and fair-playing match.
10 men against the f**kin multi-level talented Bayern, dude its like there is a lightning strike of evil pitchfork from hell, on my penis.
 
I really think that Wenger doesnt give a rat`s ass about Arsenal fans. I dont remember ever him saying how feels for Arsenal fans and their pockets for paying most expensive tickets in fecking universe or how much they spend in general to follow their team around country. Arsenal fans also complain how players act in same manner as their manager towards them. Players refusing to come to away end and clap their away support,showing gratitude because those fans spending their hard earned money for travel,tickets just so they could support them. When last time you saw Wenger pointing at Arsenal supporters forcing his players to go to Arsenal fans and clap them off?

On one of Sir Alex's documentaries, he had to put the clubs stakeholders in order and even he put the fans bottom of the pile. He explained if the rest of the club is happy the fans are likely happy as well.

You only have to look at Arsenal fans tv, after they won 3-0 against Chelsea they were all singing Wenger's praises, saying they could win the league this year. Supporters are too fickle to care about too much in my opinion. When Sir Alex was struggling in 2004, some sections of the fans said his time was up to. After finishing 1st or 2nd for over 10 years being 3rd for just 1 season was not acceptable by some fans. How I wish we could be in that position now!

As for change at the top. The Arsenal fans still pay the high tickets prices and fill that stadium every week. Why would the board change anything? It really seems to be a British mentality to moan about something rather than do something. That game was pointless last night, they were never going to turn it around. But they all still turn up for the game, then moan after on their channel. Make a stand and don't go. Empty seats would get noticed far more than a few cries on social media. Dortmund fans were outraged that the club were going to increase tickets prices so they missed the first 20 minutes of the next game. The board duly listened.

I do however think Wenger should go. The team is stagnate and he simply isn't buying the right players anymore. This nonsense about not being able to compete with other clubs. Bayern has a similar, if not stricter wage system to Arsenal yet they can get any top class player they want. Arsenal's spending reminds me of Liverpool over the years. Wenger doesn't want to pay £50-60m for one player but will happily buy above 2-3 average players for £15-25m. Difference is Liverpool can't attract the top players as they don't have the funds for high wages or the London factor, Arsenal have both. He has needed a leader in that team since Vieria left. I don't know how many times pundits and fans a like have said this yet he still hasn't bought one. Random signings like Holdings and that non-league player. Are they really going to step up that much and that quickly?
 
Martin Keown, BT Sport: "He looks like a Rolls Royce, galloping through that defence."
 
DT is quite a well spoken fellow when he wants to be, I don't get bored listening to him even if what he says is more or less the same thing. Liked what he said in the Gary Neville interview they did too. Claude is just resigned and in the acceptance stage of grief as of now I guess, can't summon the energy to rant and rave like he used to.:lol:
 
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