Full fight here...watch it while its still up.
I think it appeared that way just because it enabled Mayweather to stay at range and pick him apart. But it's still by the books one would argue, to break fighters off and put some distance between them.I tried to make it to Manchester for the Kostya fight, and I'm pretty sure Hatton was the underdog with the bookies at the time. You should try watching some of Hatton's early fights. The mauling approach only really took root from the Kostya fight onwards.
Regardless, no one would argue that Hatton was a technical wizard. But he was effective at what he did. He was also, ironically, hurt by his own fans during the Mayweather fight. They booed the US anthem and Joe Cortez, being an unprofessional asshole, penalised at him at every possible juncture as a result.
More lenient reffing wouldn't have changed anything, I agree. Mayweather was just several classes above.I think it appeared that way just because it enabled Mayweather to stay at range and pick him apart. But it's still by the books one would argue, to break fighters off and put some distance between them.
The result would have been the same with any referee in there. Mayweather adapted to that fight the way it was dictated the first few rounds like he always does. If it was a ref who let things go on the inside, he'd just have turned his back the way he did last night.
Cheers. Didn't think it would be so sensitive.@FC Ronaldo put it in. I'll remove.
Oh aye, people get dead sensitive about spoilers. If someone put what happened in the finale of GOT in the title of that thread tomorrow, there'd be bloodshed.Cheers. Didn't think it would be so sensitive.
Aldo is horribly bitter guy just comes across awfully. Compare his reaction to likes of Alvarez and it looks worse. He's always been bitter about the 13 second loss.Yep. I lost a lot of respect for Aldo there. He's obviously still butt hurt at getting knocked out by Conor.
I dunno, he fell off a cliff about round nine but from around the 5th round onwards Mayweather was largely toying with him and picking him off at ease. McGregor was getting in occasional attacking flurries but wasn't connecting with much that was actually dangerous at all. His jab was decent but his punches were fairly weak and not having much of an effect.Just watched it again from beginning to end. It was very competitive for the first 7 rounds. Floyd's strategy obviously began to pay off after that but it wasn't really til round 9 when Conor's cardio fell off a cliff.
It's actually crazy when you think how similar the mcgregor Hatton narratives are. Who am I talking about here.More lenient reffing wouldn't have changed anything, I agree. Mayweather was just several classes above.
Aldo isn't a wealthy man. He's doing what he thinks he needs to do to get another fight with Conor. Mcgregor won't go near him again, he'd be giving him an undeserved payday.Aldo is horribly bitter guy just comes across awfully. Compare his reaction to likes of Alvarez and it looks worse. He's always been bitter about the 13 second loss.
People can dislike conor etc fair enough but he handled loss on every occasion with class. Aldo has a case of the Ronda Rousey's it seems like.
Is this available somewhere?It's actually crazy when you think how similar the mcgregor Hatton narratives are. Who am I talking about here.
"Severe underdog goes up against a boxing great, mocks him in a press tour and brings a legion of countrymen to cheer him on in Las Vegas"
The Mayweather hatton build up was brilliant, and the 24/7 footage was properly directed documentary stuff. They focussed a lot on floyds uncle roger and Ricky's trainer Billy, who I believe tried to sue hatton years after they parted ways.
Is this available somewhere?
What do you mean you lost 15k? Did you bet 15k on Conor winnng this?Damn, just lost 15k. Seemed staged. Conner gassed to quickly. And I do not believe the referee should have stop the fight. I wanted to see a knockdown lol.
Cool, thanks.
Same uploader put all episodes on
Edit: forgot about Mayweather wearing the Utd top![]()
His win over Tszyu was messy & reckless but probably what was needed on the night rather than being on the end of Tszyu's punches. Unfortunately he seemed to think that was the best way to fight from then on. He did box excellently against Malignaggi but that was under the tutelage of Floyd Snr. If you watch the build up to that fight you can see he had more ability to box than he displayed in general over his career.I think Hatton was favourite for both all things considered.
As a fighter, one of the best in his division during that era.
I'm more referring to his boxing IQ. It was non existent, and as soon as he was matched against a fighter not over the hill, and not of a custom made style for him to benefit from, he looked just as much of a newcomer to boxing as mcgregor did last night. Go back and objectively decide which was more powerful, some of the right hands mcgregor ate last night, or the stepping back left hand that Mayweather used to put down hatton.
I remember hattons trainer in the build up to that fight speaking to the referee and pretty much begging him to let Hatton do work in the clench (which he was excellent at, albeit borderline illegal most of the time) which was an admission that he just didn't have the necessary technique to engage properly against an elite opponent.
Excellent brawler, occasionally good body shots but a fecking god awful pugilist.
He didn't though, he enforced the rules, I remember Billy Graham trying to BS Cortez into allowing. All Hatton's wrestling and hit and hold tactics had been allowed despite breaking the rules prior to that but under his own promotion they let him get away with it.I tried to make it to Manchester for the Kostya fight, and I'm pretty sure Hatton was the underdog with the bookies at the time. You should try watching some of Hatton's early fights. The mauling approach only really took root from the Kostya fight onwards.
Regardless, no one would argue that Hatton was a technical wizard. But he was effective at what he did. He was also, ironically, hurt by his own fans during the Mayweather fight. They booed the US anthem and Joe Cortez, being an unprofessional asshole, penalised at him at every possible juncture as a result.
Bobby Vanzie - give over.He didn't though, he enforced the rules, I remember Billy Graham trying to BS Cortez into allowing. All Hatton's wrestling and hit and hold tactics had been allowed despite breaking the rules prior to that but under his own promotion they let him get away with it.
Anyway Witter and Vanzie would of beat Hatton at 140 for the British Title, but instead of defending that he he ducked them dumping the genuine title it and picking up the fake WBU title for 5 years.
Mayweather is considered borderline feather fisted. He also doesn't put his full weight behind his shots in fear that his brittle hands will breakWhatever you think of the fight and whether it was a set up, Floyd landed some very powerful shots that didn't knock conor down. The tv screens didn't lie, Floyd let rip on more than a few occasions. Conor can really take a punch.
Mayweather on the other hand might have the most underrated chin in the sport. He's only been clocked full on a few times but feck he can take it
He admitted that the booing of the anthem pissed him off and affected his judgement.He didn't though, he enforced the rules, I remember Billy Graham trying to BS Cortez into allowing. All Hatton's wrestling and hit and hold tactics had been allowed despite breaking the rules prior to that but under his own promotion they let him get away with it.
Anyway Witter and Vanzie would of beat Hatton at 140 for the British Title, but instead of defending that he he ducked them dumping the genuine title it and picking up the fake WBU title for 5 years.
Not by anyone who has been punched by him.Mayweather is considered borderline feather fisted.
Vanzie would of outsped and outboxed Hatton. Hatton stayed well away from anyone who wasn't old, past it, small, slow for years. You can see why after seeing Magee put him down, feather fisted Collazo had him ready to go with the same shot and that southpaw right hook and Pacquaio take him out with the same right hook too.Bobby Vanzie - give over.
Full fight here...watch it while its still up.
Vanzie was a domestic level nobody. He lost twice to Graham Earl for christ sake.Vanzie would of outsped and outboxed Hatton. Hatton stayed well away from anyone who wasn't old, past it, small, slow for years. You can see why after seeing Magee put him down, feather fisted Collazo had him ready to go with the same shot and that southpaw right hook and Pacquaio take him out with the same right hook too.
He was a career lightweight and and whether you think he was overrated or not Hatton would have cut him in half.Vanzie would of outsped and outboxed Hatton. Hatton stayed well away from anyone who wasn't old, past it, small, slow for years. You can see why after seeing Magee put him down, feather fisted Collazo had him ready to go with the same shot and that southpaw right hook and Pacquaio take him out with the same right hook too.
Like I say borderline, especially when he's scared of hurting his hands, which is most of the timeNot by anyone who has been punched by him.
I didn't hear that, I remember rabid Hatton fans incenced the rules had been enforced. I mean those are the rules, what do you expect?He admitted that the booing of the anthem pissed him off and affected his judgement.
Vanzie was a better boxer than Hatton, much quicker, better defense, better use of angles and distance. Got robbed against Earl twice for the British title, easily won 9-10 rounds in the second bout and the ref/judge still gave it to Earl. Very obvious boxing corruption. No would give him a shot after that because they knew how good he was and he didn't bring fanbase to the table. Sad story really.As for Witter, meh, maybe. Shame the fight didn't happen. Vanzie, though? LOLZ.
Vanzie was a big lightweight who struggled to make lightweight and wanted Hatton for years, during the time Hatton hadn't fought anyone. Hatton didn't want anything to do with him.He was a career lightweight and and whether you think he was overrated or not Hatton would have cut him in half.
Last i heard of Vanzie he was supposedly fighting bare-knuckle weighing 15st.
Succeeding in boxing is about opportunity. You get opportunities based on fanbase. Vanzie had no fanbase and had to go and fight in other fighters hometown on their promotions. Vanzie got robbed several times and that completely derailed his career. No one would give a shot after that. If Vanzie had the luxury of picking and choosing opponents, cherry picking weak world title belt holders, he'd have won titles. I mean he has an amateur win over a world champion. He didn't have that luxury though and no one wanted to fight him.How do you explain Vanzie never even winning a European title, out of interest? Never mind a world title.
We'll have to agree to disagree.Vanzie was a big lightweight who struggled to make lightweight and wanted Hatton for years, during the time Hatton hadn't fought anyone. Hatton didn't want anything to do with him.
After Vanzie got robbed of his British title no lightweight or light welter would touch him with a barge poll.
I think you're being very generous in your assessment. You build a fan base by winning fights. Vanzie was a domestic level fighter, nothing more.Succeeding in boxing is about opportunity. You get opportunities based on fanbase. Vanzie had no fanbase and had to go and fight in other fighters hometown on their promotions. Vanzie got robbed several times and that completely derailed his career. No one would give a shot after that. If Vanzie had the luxury of picking and choosing opponents, cherry picking weak world title belt holders, he'd have won titles. I mean he has an amateur win over a world champion. He didn't have that luxury though and no one wanted to fight him.
European lightweight champ was Cook who wouldn't fight Vanzie
He couldn't get a fight at 140, none of them wanted him. Most of Hatton's opponents back then came from 2 divisions down.We'll have to agree to disagree.
Vanzie was always vulnerable - he was the sort of fighter i think Hatton would run over. If he struggled to make 135 so badly how come he never moved up to 140 given it was much more of a glamorous division and housed both Hatton and Witter? He was never going to force a fight from a division down.
He couldn't have vacated the 135 British lightweight title and moved to 140 and got ranked domestically? okHe couldn't get a fight at 140, none of them wanted him. Most of Hatton's opponents back then came from 2 divisions down.
Hatton had a huge fanbase from singing blue moon to City fans long before he beat anyone who was half decent. Black fighters generally find it harder to build a fanbase. Vanzie was British champion and still went to hometowns of nobody fighters with fanbases. Witter was a world champion and didn't have much of a fanbase.I think you're being very generous in your assessment. You build a fan base by winning fights. Vanzie was a domestic level fighter, nothing more.
With Witter, you have a valid point. Vanzie, though? Preposterous.