It took guts to drop Maguire and Ronaldo. Well done.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
There is no valid alternatives
Leave it out, they’ve not been bad.
You can see what a big difference without maguire, shaw etc
Now that’s more like it. Maguire and Ronaldo beed to stay on the bench thus whole season. ETH got the big calls right and hats off to him. Hope we continue the same momentum and energy and concentration in the second half too.
Brilliant stuff from ETH. We are going to be great with him. Nice attacking high press football. Love it.
If it was Ole we would be playing a deep scared back 7. So glad that's gone forever.
If it was Ole we would be playing a deep scared back 7. So glad that's gone forever.
Can’t wait to see what this guy can do with his own xi. Scintillating half with the tools at his disposal; just imagine what it looks like with all xi in unison and of the prerequisite quality!
I agree, lazy and cumbersome both of them. Slow in the head and completely lack confidence
Rashford, De Gea and Dalot should be the next people out of the lineup. I am not including McTominay because Casemiro will replace and banish him into nothingness.
We're not able to deal with their movement at all, 30-70 possession.
I think the last ditch defending is fine but we really have to do better than we did under Ole. I think they're so terrified of losing the ball against the Pool press that they're just lumping it at every opportunity for Rashford to chase.
I think the last ditch defending is fine but we really have to do better than we did under Ole. I think they're so terrified of losing the ball against the Pool press that they're just lumping it at every opportunity for Rashford to chase.
He’s only signing warriors that plays with PASSION. Somethings that we’ve been clearly lacking. Nice to see!
Sometimes players don't fit a manager's style of play no matter how big their name is. Klopp bought in a whole new team to suit his philosophy. Same with Guardiola. ETH will probably need to do the same as a lot of these players won't be able to do what he wants.
Get in Antony, and Casemiro is already in. Possibly Frenkie too.
For this half, bring in Fred, Martial/Ronaldo.
Bruno and Rashford have been wank after the first 15 mins.
I mean the first 30 minutes we dominated, only the last 15 minutes we completely dropped off
He's learning from his mistakes, no doubt about it. Hopefully the last time we ever see Maguire and Shaw as main players for us.
Hopefully Bruno and Rashford are next on his list.
Hopefully Bruno and Rashford are next on his list.
Yeah I meant to say not fit so on the bench
Ole had many of these moments. We could end up losing the next game. However, Happy to see some progress, but the question has got to be asked, why it took him this long to figure things out towards the intensity we should be playing at. This should be a standard not just at Liverpool. I hope it will not be like Ole, where we only start showing up when our manager job is on the line
You can't turn such a shite team completely after one game. Great 15-20 minutes, great attitude for the entire game is more than good so far. It's actually amazing so far.
Baby steps and all but that first half was more like it. Some problems are still very obvious but a marked improvement.
Hope he gets his subs right because our energy levels could drop at this rate.
Hope he gets his subs right because our energy levels could drop at this rate.
"took this long" ? It's his 3rd fecking game
Poch would have had us playing this way when still at PSG
Had Preseason as well. We should have started of the season exactly with such intensity and not take a beating from Brentford to perform like this. It isn't the right mentality because we need to have that consistent mentality throughout the season, not just select games if we are trying to challenge for the title and get top four
Yup I agree but it's eerily reminiscent of the problems under Ole. We go in with a plan on who goes where during the press and as soon as the opposition varies things a little bit we're headless chickens. Villareal etc. come to mind.
Firmino is creating overloads everywhere - Martinez is trying to hand him off to Eriksen / McT it's 2v3 almost every time because Bruno is too far forward and playing almost as a second striker again.
Many other issues of the same sort.
Just nonsense. A team who are unable to play together, go in a shell the moment they concede and your want them to be on the front foot the whole game against one of Europe's best sides.
Instead of seeing progress, just complain. I don't expect United to win. I still expect them to lose but I am seeing the team playing and defending together. That's a decent start to build on.
If he had the players, he would do it
Yeah well, we don't have an actually defensive midfielder in. Casemiro will help immensely. He plugs all those gaps and it's what we've needed for years. Its also Ten Hags 3rd game. Takes time.
With Casemiro joining, Bruno should be benched for good. Casemiro-Fred-Eriksen should be the way to go.
If he had FdJ, Erikson would take Brunos position
Don’t mind that guy, his hopeless.
trust this man.
Martinez looks a bit lightweight for the EPL 
..been absolutely outstanding!
..been absolutely outstanding!
Let’s see. We are very familiar with playing one good half. The last 15m and the start of second half is a bit worrying. I don’t care how we play second half as long as we win 
Reverted to ole tactics and it just suits these players so much better. He is such a flexible manager it makes me wonder if he will just go to build a counter attacking team, especially now with an elite DM. It is probably his most realistic view to being a success here. He is certainly a Wiley enough coach to do it better than ole and mourinho did it
He will still build his own team. The difference between him and low level managers like ole is they know to get the best out of the team. I. Different situations not just go fifa mode and build a team come hell or high water
Ye as I said I think he would do it better than ole or mourinho. Would be interesting if he went that way though
This win will ease the pressure a lot from the team after the last 2 games. Atmosphere should be better in the next few weeks especially if we build on this.
Ten Hag actually made a really good sub!! This has to be the team going forward.. obviously replace Mctominay for Casemiro.
Agree. Playing “Ole Ball” will do fine for confidence, and it is what we are good at with this squad.
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