It does feel very over-complicated. We've got CBs receiving the ball on the half-turn in the pivot, full-backs inverted, full-backs underlapping, two 8s, false 9s, sweeper-keepers....it's like we're trying to crowbar every fad-tactic into one match!
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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ETH needs to ditch the 3-1-6 formation because we are awful.i possession and make lots of poor decisions. Until we sort ourselves out we need to play 4-2-3-1
I'm glad we won, but that was still an awful performance. And he's been serving medicore football for most of his tenure here, very little improvement. He's giving Pellistri chances now, but he wasn't last season with all those games ands also because Amad is injured.
I am going to reserve judgment of Ten Hag until I get a bigger sample size this season. I am willing to pin this performance down to lack of preperation and also credit to Wolves who brought their A-Game, but it can't and should not be a repeating pattern over the course of the season.
Hojlund's injury is not his fault. Not this time, at least.
Casemiro's backup is still McTominay... that should definitely change for the better, as opponents are ready to sell their mothers to finance their midfield overhaul.
Not his decision but let's do preseason for footballing reasons rather than commercial. It's obvious the squad hated the US tour. We're not prepared enough for the season.
Needs to be better with in game management. It won't be good enough talking about Principles
Also what fitness program did we follow in preseason? We look unfit as hell
Also what fitness program did we follow in preseason? We look unfit as hell
I agree on certain points. Just curious, how many more players he needs?
Caceido is not a United fan, he's been saying he's a fan of all sorts of clubs.
His post match presser, doesn't seem overly concerned, said we will improve and need to be better on the ball.
I really don't think they were worse. Wolves just didn't punish us.
Least convincing explanation ever as to why that wasn’t a penalty - clearly in reality he thinks it was
It was an awful performance. No excuse... but still, he and coaches improved Wan-Bissaka to the point, he won us the match.
Better make a statement against Spurs and Forest, or it could be de Zerbi in soon.
Yea I don't want to say it because I like a lot about his character but I don't like his football and I don't think it's going to work with him.
Not that my opinion counts for much and I do make up my mind a lot quicker than most
Exact same message in English. He did say we have the ball away far too much but that it would improve as the season progresses. He knows the team aren't match fit yet. The players will get a very different message I suspect.It's a good thing you guys don't speak Dutch or you would all be fuming at Erik's post game interviewsaid he didn't like how they played today but was dodging negative questions and downplaying that Wolves were the better team, mostly being positive about keeping a clean sheet, being organized in defense and saying we're fine in a low block. Expected a bit more of a critical stance after tonights display but ah well.
He's gotten 8 so far. How many does he need FFS.
This guy just stood in front of the camera to say we dealt and matched the runs of wolves in midfield?
Personally, I'm giving it at least three matches before diving in with "I've always said that he's not good enough" or "we're doomed this season" comments that have already cropped up in the last few pages.
I'm not going to overreact to looking shit (although the weirdest part was how physically outmatched we were), but he will have some serious questions being asked about him and his talent ID if Mount ends up being a bench player and Antony is as toothless as he was last year. Those are two players he's fully had us go all out for because he previously worked with them and was adamant he needed them, and it's cost us 140m between the pair.
For as poor as we were as a team tonight, we had 4/5 chances in that first half alone to score off of Wolves giving it away in their own half but Antony and a poor Garnacho just turn the attacks into dust. Compare that to Liverpool or other high pressing teams and those opportunities HAVE to be converted because you're going to give away the occasional counter from pressing that high.
For as poor as we were as a team tonight, we had 4/5 chances in that first half alone to score off of Wolves giving it away in their own half but Antony and a poor Garnacho just turn the attacks into dust. Compare that to Liverpool or other high pressing teams and those opportunities HAVE to be converted because you're going to give away the occasional counter from pressing that high.
Ask Chelsea, ask Pool, ask any opponent, they'll probably tell you, every year we need a lot of quality to chase City.
Murtough let that happen despite it being his main remit to avoid such a scenario, I will blame him for that because he has been spineless so far. A good DOF is on the phone bringing in Amrabat tomorrow because if this goes south he going to be left holding an empty sack or getting the sack too himself.
Yeah wouldn’t go that far. It was just concerning.
Is it me or has it become endemic the team starts the season slow and gassed, as if physical preparation still had to kick in ?
Maybe not a EtH specific issue but still.
Maybe not a EtH specific issue but still.
He repeatedly indicated that he was a United fan before he reached the PL and started having his, i guess advisors or entourage, presumably suggest he start hedging his bets once clubs started to enquiring (and potentially making his team a hefty commission with any move).
Not sure how we start a season looking that bad. Unprepared, unfit and chaotic are 3 words Id use alongside lucky to not get beat.
We'll never even be elite in transition, especially not with Antony and Rasfords decision making. The first half when we won the ball back and he chose to play in Rashford when Bruno/Garnacho were wide open on the other side... Then Rashford who chose to shoot straight at the keeper when Garnacho and Bruno were still wide open on the other side...
We won and that all thats matters , but his post match interview at Sky had me worried. He said he managed to follow their runs? We wasnt open?
Was i hearing wrong?
Was i hearing wrong?
Yea we need and have needed for so long a dof with clear football structure that guides manager recruitment and coordinated player acquisition
More. Like it or not, the squad isn’t good enough, and our rivals are bringing in just as many, if not more.
I look at this squad and see the need for at least another four or five players.
I'm not denying shitty performance. I'm sure you saw in your life teams winning after awful performance.
We are not aiming to be Wolves, we're chasing City and Arsenal from last season. We need quality, and not to compare ourselves with Wolves.
Should know by now that what he says in public is hardly what he actually thinks. He’ll not be happy with that.
Not recently.
Enough to have a functioning football team to fit his tactics, atm every single new signing we make has basically walked into starting 11 without any hesitation, which means his peers to his position were just that much worse that he had no need to outplay them to get their starting position.
Stop passing the buck.
Like Mount and Antony? He can buy as many players as he wants but it ain't helping us score goals so far. If Hojilund doesn't hit the ground running the pressure will be immense.
He's built this side and they still aren't doing it, maybe it's him.
Can't build from the back, can't keep possession, no patterns of play, a lot of running around and general chaos... got some flashbacks to Ole's and Rangnick's time at the club. Not a pleasant feeling.
He deserves time, though.
He deserves time, though.
One player. Not the whole team. Aaron was great, but the team as a whole was set up terribly and clearly undercoached.