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ah yes the mighty red bull, stalwarts of F1, engine suppliers, specialising in cars. feck off red bull and get back to your shitty drinks.
“They’re such unworthy losers. By the way, if an independent panel decides we lost we’re going to quit.”
Imagine one team is winning 3-0, then in stoppage time the ref decides that whoever scores the next goal wins the match, then awards a penalty to the team losing.Thanks for the explanation… I’ll probably never fully understand how badly Hamilton got screwed compared to those that follow F1 but even to me it does sound bad.
“They’re such unworthy losers. By the way, if an independent panel decides we lost we’re going to quit.”
At this rate, we'll have a super civil but totally weird thread next season, with two conversations happening completely in parallel.
First, it's not a "disaster". Second, it's supposed to be a spectacle (not at the expense of integrity of the event of course) else why does any professional sports even exist.This is the sort of thinking that has led to this disaster. It's a sport, not a soap opera. When football teams keep the ball at the corner flag with 5 minutes to go, it's not a spectacle either, but we understand because it's a competition.
The rules do allow for the unlapped cars to stay in place. It's all or nothing, not '5 cars only'
Yes. He would have been champion without being the best driver of the season. That is undeserved in my eyes.If Hamilton had won yesterday, would he have been an undeserving champion?
If that's the case, United should not have won the 99 CL final. Bayern definitely was the better team. Or maybe United should have won the 2005 FA Cup Final when we were by far the better team and yet Arsenal won -- they should have protested?Yes. He would have been champion without being the best driver of the season. That is undeserved in my eyes.
He made too many mistakes in the first half of the season and lost too many points as a result.
At the end of the day, the best driver won the title, and that is uncontested if you look at the driver ratings.
These driver ratings on a race-by-race basis include scores from six different websites:
AMUS.de
Autosport.com
The-Race.com
PlanetF1.com
Crash.net
F1i.com
Five English speaking, one German speaking, no Dutch speaking.
Extra incentive to overturn the decision.
I have never seen more vitriol on red cafe. Are F1-threads always like this?It actually broke some of the posters it seems
Try our match day threads. The F1 threads are almost patrician-like behaviour compared to match day threads.I have never seen more vitriol on red cafe. Are F1-threads always like this?
I would say there are up to 5 posters who you simply can’t discuss things with. They are literally like children with no ability to be impartial. They turn this thread into a joke at times.I have never seen more vitriol on red cafe. Are F1-threads always like this?
Imagine if all season, Liverpool receive favourable calls while United receive unfavourable calls. United is the better team, but thanks to referees, Liverpool is able to go into the final game of the season level on points with United.If that's the case, United should not have won the 99 CL final. Bayern definitely was the better team. Or maybe United should have won the 2005 FA Cup Final when we were by far the better team and yet Arsenal won -- they should have protested?
How many competitions have been won by the underperforming teams/player? But none of them were given free hits to win.
Its just silly trying to rationalise Max's season-long performance into a cheated/tainted win.
Btw they both went into the final race on exactly the same points.
F1 season finale was a manufactured farce and risks the sport's futureTo be honest I don't care too much. People working inside Red Bull are long gone anyway. I'm talking about how it will be remembered in motorsport folklore and RB and this generation of 1 season fans will have no bearing on that.
Inaccurate analogy. To correct it, Max received the most favourable calls all season then the biggest favourable call in the final race.Imagine if all season, Liverpool receive favourable calls while United receive unfavourable calls. United is the better team, but thanks to referees, Liverpool is able to go into the final game of the season level on points with United.
Then, in the final game of the season, United finally receive one favourable call (a penalty that wasn’t one) to win the game and ultimately the title.
Is that title tainted?
Wishful thinking, you live in a bubble.F1 season finale was a manufactured farce and risks the sport's future
Michael Masi made a decision which directly shaped the title race
https://www.marca.com/en/f1/2021/12/13/61b78798ca474188408b45ea.html
Most f1 fans from most countries will know it is tainted.
A pen outside the box? Yes.Imagine if all season, Liverpool receive favourable calls while United receive unfavourable calls. United is the better team, but thanks to referees, Liverpool is able to go into the final game of the season level on points with United.
Then, in the final game of the season, United finally receive one favourable call (a penalty that wasn’t one) to win the game and ultimately the title.
Is that title tainted?
Must be the Netflix fansWishful thinking, you live in a bubble.
Use the chrome extension which allows you to see dislikes on YouTube. The Abu Dhabi race received an overwhelmingly positive review.
The vast majority of F1 fans loved the season finale.
Max lost 70 points because of Pirelli and Mercedes playing destruction derby in Baku, Silverstone and Hungary.Inaccurate analogy. To correct it, Max received the most favourable calls all season then the biggest favourable call in the final race.
I struggle to see how there is still any debate on this.
I didn’t know that Netflix fans represent the majority of fans? Because YouTube is probably a bigger and better sample size than you’ll get anywhere else.Must be the Netflix fans
The idea that decisions or luck in the final race/game of the season makes a title tainted, but not when it happens in the middle of the season, is an incredibly stupid argument.A pen outside the box? Yes.
Water tight scientific proof right thereWishful thinking, you live in a bubble.
Use the chrome extension which allows you to see dislikes on YouTube. The Abu Dhabi race received an overwhelmingly positive review.
The vast majority of F1 fans loved the season finale.
Yeah, doesn't change what we all saw happen. Lewis had it until Masi decided otherwise.The idea that decisions or luck in the final race/game of the season makes a title tainted, but not when it happens in the middle of the season, is an incredibly stupid argument.
Every race is worth equal points.
At the end of the season, Max scored 395.5 points and Lewis 387.5 points.
You can whine about Abu Dhabi, then I will bring up Baku.
At the end of the day, Lewis lost and there’s nothing you can do about it.
I would argue that a sample size of over 300,000 votes is significantly better than whatever evidence Fluctuation has for his claim (which is absolutely nothing).Water tight scientific proof right there
Somehow I'm fairly sure this notion that Max deserved it because he had more points after the final race wouldn't quite stand if Masi didn't decide the race and Lewis wonYeah, doesn't change what we all saw happen. Lewis had it until Masi decided otherwise.
Lewis had the race until the safety car came out.Yeah, doesn't change what we all saw happen. Lewis had it until Masi decided otherwise.
I guess it depends on youtube likesSomehow I'm fairly sure this notion that Max deserved it because he had more points after the final race wouldn't quite stand if Masi didn't decide the race and Lewis won
I'm not looking to go anywhere. I'm simply calling it as I saw it and that seems to work you up a bit...Lewis had the race until the safety car came out.
Max had Lewis on the ropes until Mercedes began playing destruction derby in Silverstone and Hungary.
At the end of the day, neither matters. The only thing that matters is.
395.5
387.5
Whining about how many points your favourite driver should have scored if not for XYZ will get you nowhere.
If someone wants to make the claim that the majority of people hated what happened in Abu Dhabi, they best bring some actual evidence.I guess it depends on youtube likes
Yes, we get it, you don’t want any Verstappen fans posting. You just want a moaning session with fellow Hamilton fans.Just to clarify all, Infordin is part of the elite group of posters you should firmly not bother engaging with. We learnt this lesson last time, eventually people stopped, and he went away. Sadly he’s back, but the same approach will work.
What does that matter?If someone wants to make the claim that the majority of people hated what happened in Abu Dhabi, they best bring some actual evidence.
Hamilton fans, especially the English ones, live in a massive bubble.
Most people loved the season finale, you are just a vocal minority.
If your were appalled by the finish the first time, you are not going to watch it again on YouTube. Max fans absolutely would though.Wishful thinking, you live in a bubble.
Use the chrome extension which allows you to see dislikes on YouTube. The Abu Dhabi race received an overwhelmingly positive review.
The vast majority of F1 fans loved the season finale.
Plenty of Max fans I’d happily engage with and do. Just not you. And ironic that you think I’m a Hamilton fan.Yes, we get it, you don’t want any Verstappen fans posting. You just want a moaning session with fellow Hamilton fans.
It’s OK, you’ll get over it eventually.
Canada 2019 received over 50% downvotes.If your were appalled by the finish the first time, you are not going to watch it again on YouTube. Max fans absolutely would though.