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F1 2023 Season
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https://racingnews365.com/transcript-reveals-verstappen-disobeying-team-orders-during-saudi-gp
https://racingnews365.com/transcript-reveals-verstappen-disobeying-team-orders-during-saudi-gp
Lap | Verstappen | Perez |
|---|---|---|
39 | GP: Ok Max that was track limits for Turn 23 again. We will like to target a 33.0. 33.0. | HB: Ok back to target now. So we're just covering Fernando he is doing 33.1 |
| GP: Max any more feedback on that issue from before? | PER: Sorry repeat |
| VER: Well it's still there | HB: Target lap time 33.0. Max targetting the same. For reference that is +0.8 on the dash. +0.8. |
| GP: Ok understood. Ok target 33.0. 33.0 | PER: I'm having a bit of a long brake pedal |
40 | GP: That's 33.0 | HB: Yeah copy we're having a look |
| GP: Max, confirm 33.0 | |
41 | GP: 33.0. 33.0 | HB: Target 32.6. +0.4 |
| | PER: Is Max doing the same? |
| | HB: Max's last lap is 32.6 |
| | PER: Then why did you tell me 33:0? |
| | HB: Just target plus four, jobs a good'un |
| | PER: We are pushing without a reason guys, not smart to do |
42 | | HB: Your lap 32.6. Max's lap 32.6 |
| | PER: Guys we don't really need this |
| | HB: 8 laps to go |
| | PER: Let's go. Let's go do 33.0 |
43 | GP: Max can you target 33:0 please? | PER: What is the gap? |
| | HB: Gap is 4.3 |
| | PER: So are we pushing now? |
| | HB: You're free to push. Free to push |
45 | GP: You have 5 laps remaining coming up. Gap is 5 | HB: 5 laps to go. Target +0.8. Gap 5.5 seconds |
| VER: What's the fastest lap? | |
| GP: We are not concerned about that at the moment Max | HB: Max's last lap 33.0 |
| VER: Yeah but I am | |
| GP: So 32.1, 32.1 | |
48 | | PER: What is the fastest lap at the moment? |
| | HB: You've got the fastest lap. That's a 32.1 |
CF | | PER: Did we get the fastest lap in the end or? |
| | HB: You were pipped on the last lap |
| | PER: Ah, great! Aha! |
Not the full transcript. Odd that they missed out Max being told he was free to push same as Checo. I wonder why…
Max wasn't told he was free to push as it wasn't needed unless you mean before lap 39? Close to when Checo was told he was free to push as he wished Max had realised the gap wasn't catchable so slowed down to prepare for fastest lap.
It can be seen in his times as he goes from like 4.2 behind Checo back to around 6 before finally taking the fastest lap and like 1.2 seconds out of Checos time.
Basically both guys had a fair fight for fastest lap. Checo just misunderstood his engineer as nowhere was he told not to go for fastest lap or that Max wouldn't.
The full radios are available online to listen to.
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Ted Kravitz said teams in pitlane are questioning the legality of RedBull DRS system as it gives them 20mph more speed than any other car when open.
Teams think something else is going on, maybe the floor also stalling or some other aero part.
Early days yet as they need to figure out how works before any team could in theory appeal to FIA or more likley copy the system for themselves.
Teams think something else is going on, maybe the floor also stalling or some other aero part.
Early days yet as they need to figure out how works before any team could in theory appeal to FIA or more likley copy the system for themselves.
Redbull not playing by the rules? I don't believe you at all, no, never
I dont for one minute think their DRS is illegal, OK it may be faster, but I am sure they would have consulted the FIA during every stage of design and development.
Would the same not apply to the design and development of the floor, maybe they have just found a way for then both to work better the other have not.
No feck it they are cheating, throw then out
They have to be doing something different than others and found something though.I dont for one minute think their DRS is illegal, OK it may be faster, but I am sure they would have consulted the FIA during every stage of design and development.
Would the same not apply to the design and development of the floor, maybe they have just found a way for then both to work better the other have not.
No feck it they are cheating, throw then out
I agree and TBH fair play to them, upto others to catch up now
Other Teams have done the same over the years
Has anyone been to monza. Looking at getting tickets and staying in bergamo. Wondered what the travel links are like between bergamo and monza, f1 site says trains but I can’t find any that leave early enough for Sunday or direct to monza.
Merc wind tunnel correlation affected by out-of-tolerance parts. Very disappointing if true, and relevant individuals have reportedly been dismissed.
https://www.formu1a.uno/en/mercedes-wind-tunnel-troubles-no-new-chassis-until-2024/
https://www.formu1a.uno/en/mercedes-wind-tunnel-troubles-no-new-chassis-until-2024/
Interesting article, though i disagree with the very last point made, that mercedes will retaun the zero sidepod design. Thats counter to everything we have heard recently that they are ditching it and copying RB like the rest of the grid bar ferrari and haas.
It has emerged that some parts used in the wind tunnel (the scale models) were inaccurate and went beyond the necessary parameters.
So in simple terms, who ever made the scale models for the wind tunnel, cocked it up and in turn cocked up the car for the season.
Interesting article about RedBulls DRS.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-explains-red-bulls-triple-drs-trick/
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-explains-red-bulls-triple-drs-trick/
The FIA has launched the tender process for manufacturers that wish to bid for Formula 1's exclusive 2025 tyre supply contract.
The latter involves a three-year contract that will run for 2025 to 2027, with an option extending into 2028. The winning manufacturer will also supply tyres to the FIA Formula 3 and Formula 2 Championships.
Pirelli has been Formula 1's exclusive tyre manufacturer since 2011, the Italian company supplying its product through several regulation changes, the most significant of which was Grand Prix racing's switch to 18-inch wheels in 2022.
The FIA says the targets and specifications of the future tyre supply contract remain similar to the current contract, although bidding suppliers will be required to demonstrate the increased environmental sustainability of their product throughout its life cycle.
"These targets have been agreed through consultation with the Commercial Rights Holders and the Teams, and are designed to ensure a wide working range, minimise overheating, and have low degradation whilst also creating the possibility for variation in strategy," the FIA said.
"Other technological updates will include the requirement for tyres to be fitted with electronic identification to improve the efficiency of the scrutineering procedures."
The FIA is expected to announce the selected winning bidder around mid-June.
The latter involves a three-year contract that will run for 2025 to 2027, with an option extending into 2028. The winning manufacturer will also supply tyres to the FIA Formula 3 and Formula 2 Championships.
Pirelli has been Formula 1's exclusive tyre manufacturer since 2011, the Italian company supplying its product through several regulation changes, the most significant of which was Grand Prix racing's switch to 18-inch wheels in 2022.
The FIA says the targets and specifications of the future tyre supply contract remain similar to the current contract, although bidding suppliers will be required to demonstrate the increased environmental sustainability of their product throughout its life cycle.
"These targets have been agreed through consultation with the Commercial Rights Holders and the Teams, and are designed to ensure a wide working range, minimise overheating, and have low degradation whilst also creating the possibility for variation in strategy," the FIA said.
"Other technological updates will include the requirement for tyres to be fitted with electronic identification to improve the efficiency of the scrutineering procedures."
The FIA is expected to announce the selected winning bidder around mid-June.
Guru Johl Chief Aerodynamicist (No. 2) for Aston Martin has left and joined Alpha Tauri as Deputy Head of Aero. Mariano Alperin Chief of Aerodynamic Technology for Aston Martin has left and will join McLaren.
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Red Bull and Verstappen boycott driver safety-car after interview
A remarkable piece of news from Australia: Red Bull Racing and therefore Max Verstappen are boycotting this weekend's safety meetings involving the safety car driver. The reason is an interview Bernd Mayländer gave last week, according to the Swiss Blick. Article continues under ad Red Bull and Verstappen are outraged by Mayländer's remark against Auto, Motor und Sport. He said, "I walked through the hospitality with my helmet on and sat down behind the port first. I first had to clarify for myself what had just happened?" At least for Red Bull, this comment was enough to punish Mayländer.
Red Bull and Verstappen boycott driver safety-car after interview
A remarkable piece of news from Australia: Red Bull Racing and therefore Max Verstappen are boycotting this weekend's safety meetings involving the safety car driver. The reason is an interview Bernd Mayländer gave last week, according to the Swiss Blick. Article continues under ad Red Bull and Verstappen are outraged by Mayländer's remark against Auto, Motor und Sport. He said, "I walked through the hospitality with my helmet on and sat down behind the port first. I first had to clarify for myself what had just happened?" At least for Red Bull, this comment was enough to punish Mayländer.
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such babies.
You do realise that's a fake article being passed around by the really strange twitter LH cult.
That Stephanie person is seriously unhinged.
They make things up for themselves to then get pissed about. It's an endless cycle of madness.
I did wonder , click the link then click full story and you just get an error.
Nothing more tragic than these Hamilbots with their 40k+ deranged tweets. It really is a cult.
Circuit changes for Australian GP
- A new vehicle opening has been created on the left-hand side at Marshal Post 10.5.
- The pit exit width has been reduced to 4m and the pit exit line shortened. It now ends at the SC2 line.
- The barriers and tyre barriers on the left-hand side at Turn 11 have been realigned to maintain a height of 1 metre.
no different to some of the rabid Max fans, lets be honest both sets of fans have their fair share of ,lets say extreme fans who will post anything to wind the other side up.
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Nah there's clearly a big difference. Team LH is a cult of personality, a lot of them aren't even motorsport fans. Also there's a lot more of them than for any other driver.
It's ones like Stephanie who make F1 twitter such a meme for being a toxic wasteland. These are the sort who caused Latifi and Masi to have to hire extra security. Who send death and rape threats to Newey's wife and Piquet's daughter. Because they're so invested in a cult of personality they think it's all fair game.
You just proved @pauldyson1uk point.
Come on, you have to try harder if you want to WUM. There are lunatics on both sides.i reckon it’s true because you’re not going to go with stories that are entirely believable. you say things like “max starts selling his farts in jars and he’s sold out within an hour, with fans filming themselves huffing and passing out” actually i forget what point i was making.
Only lunatics use twitter to begin with, so that's true in a sense.
Is this article fake then?
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/bernd-maylaender-video-interview/
You've missed the point completely - no one is disputing what Maylander said at the time. Your challenge is to find a credible source for Max / RB boycotting the meeting with him this weekend.
That’s not the first time it’s happened to me.
We all have our moments!That’s not the first time it’s happened to me.
The interview with him is real. The articles saying Red Bull are boycotting him and the Saftey Car are fake which is what the online outrage is about. Trust me wether your a Merc fan, Red bull fan or a general fan of F1 your best off blocking people like Stephanie. They literally just spread hate and throw shit at the wall hoping it sticks.
Sure he goes onto say he is basically fine with how it ended and Max deserved it and that's sport etc etc etc.
It's pretty much the F1 equivalent of football twitter at this point.
GPBlog is one of the worst out there in terms of 'sources'. It's best avoided along with PlanetF1 and Insider Racing.
Just when I started having a bit of respect for Jos' little bitch.
Uh, would recommend you read the thread a bit more carefully there mate