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Thanks for the stat. It hasn't changed my opinion of him being a luxury player that looks good when others are all doing their jobs, but doesn't have the ability to help carry his teammates when some are tired, missing or underperforming.6 to be correct.
That would be weird. Just sell one of him or Mata to to make space for Pereira (who should definately be given a chance).I feel some weirdos don't want Miki to be sold, but also do not let him near first team. Let him just suffer.
Exactly.Exactly. Mourinho isn’t a fool, like LVG was taking an age to drop Rooney. We can’t afford to carry any passengers this season, or going forward. Put on the shirt and earn it, or get left behind. Mhiki has had countless chances.
I watched Mkhitaryan over the years a lot and he is no 10. Klopp' s experiment with him as 10 brought mixed results. So why was he successful under Tuchel?Thanks for the stat. It hasn't changed my opinion of him being a luxury player that looks good when others are all doing their jobs, but doesn't have the ability to help carry his teammates when some are tired, missing or underperforming.
He is one of those passenger types.
That would be weird. Just sell one of him or Mata to to make space for Pereira (who should definately be given a chance).
You forgot to mention that he was release from no 10 position and pushed out wide so that he can't participate in dictating the play (Gundogan and Reus did this), which he was utter shit at.I watched Mkhitaryan over the years a lot and he is no 10. Klopp' s experiment with him as 10 brought mixed results. So why was he successful under Tuchel?
1. Dynamic possession football, with good share of pressing and counter attacking options.
2. Strong 8, who would dictate the tempo of the game, Gundogan.
3. Ball playing CB, who would sometimes connect with Miki with 20-30 yard pass. Hummels.
4. Strong attacking fullbacks, who would enable him to move inside.
5. Interchangeability with other winger, Reus.
6. Dynamic forward, whose game does not depend on physicality.
7. Patient and not publicly punishing coach.
So, yes he functions in a good working team and I do not think he would achieve great results here. From all the listed things only Pogba fits the profile and maybe Lukaku a bit. I don't know, I don't see a great future for him here. He needs a different setup to function better.
Reus did not do it. Kagawa did, in some games Miki did it and Tuchel also used a lot of 4-1-4-1, without clear 10 oppose to Klopp's 4-2-3-1.You forgot to mention that he was release from no 10 position and pushed out wide so that he can't participate in dictating the play (Gundogan and Reus did this), which ahe was utter shit at.
We had decent results - but also scored 4 against Newcastle without him. The fact - to my mind - is that in all the early season games as well, Mkhi wasn't exactly shining. He had moments (typically when space really opened up in the last 10 minutes with the opposition chasing the game) but without those assists, his performances even in those games would be panned. It's frustrating to be honest. I've been a big backer and been hoping for ages that he'll come good. Hand on heart though, the recent showers that are his performances mean that I genuinely feel he should be the last person considered. Mata probably offers a better option!After finally watching the Basel game from yesterday, it kills me to say it but with Pogba back; I think that Miki (or a #10 that is similar) is the answer to our problems. We saw how good the Miki-Pogba-Matic partnership was by far the best midfield partnership we had. Matic freed Pogba up to roam over the pitch as link up play and keep the ball moving. Miki would receive the ball and drive at the defense, creating channels for Lukaku to move into for easy through balls. It also allowed the wide players to push higher and the team as a whole pressed much higher up the pitch forcing turnovers.
For these same reasons I think that Miki struggled without Pogba, because Hererra used his energy to link play but never drove forward like Pogba. This left Miki isolated and disconnected from the front 3 and also gave him no runners when he had the ball driving at the defense. I'm not a huge miki fan, but with Lukaku upfront we need to play a second midfielder with his skill set.
Kagawa could have done well under sir alex if he dint retire.^^^
Not to mention those players that United from BD seems to fail at certain level most probably they are very accustomed to certain system only. Kagawa, Miki.
Respectfully Disagree. Before the Pogba injury Miki had 5 assists in 4 games and for me was a key cog in the high intensity play we saw at the beginning of the season. While we did put 4 past Newcastle, I didn't see the same energy that made you think every time going forward. I hope he comes good as well, because when he is on form; he offers something much different than anyone else in the squad. I don't like Mata in the #10, I actually think Ibra will be a the best alternative once fully fit if Miki cannot regain form.We had decent results - but also scored 4 against Newcastle without him. The fact - to my mind - is that in all the early season games as well, Mkhi wasn't exactly shining. He had moments (typically when space really opened up in the last 10 minutes with the opposition chasing the game) but without those assists, his performances even in those games would be panned. It's frustrating to be honest. I've been a big backer and been hoping for ages that he'll come good. Hand on heart though, the recent showers that are his performances mean that I genuinely feel he should be the last person considered. Mata probably offers a better option!
AgreedWell, I still think Miki can offer more than Lingard and Mata under current circumstances.
Hopefully the boot up the bottom that he needs!
He started as a RW for us. Took a while to find his feet even on his familiar position. He was moved centrally in the last 3rd of last season after putting some good performances from that position towards the end of games.He's much better as an inside right player. Never understood why he played No.10 when we have Mata and he barely ever played that posistion at BVB.
Not me. He needs to move around, but not exclusively centrally. Something like against CSKA.He started as a RW for us. Took a while to find his feet even on his familiar position. He was moved centrally in the last 3rd of last season after putting some good performances from that position towards the end of games.
In fact, nearly everyone on this site was saying that he'd be better suited to the middle after that. And it certainly seemed to be the case, for a bit. But then his performances dipped dramatically after the first 3-4 games of this season. He has been woeful for the last 2 months. So bad that it can't be position related. He just puts his head down and loses the ball nearly every time he gets it.
I think the same thing. I assume its because Jose likes the thought of having a number 10 who has pace to burn and get beat his man. Unfortunately hes not been doing that all that much and its been painful.He's much better as an inside right player. Never understood why he played No.10 when we have Mata and he barely ever played that posistion at BVB.
He used to do that with Gunter-LP and Schmelzer. But he would also go inside a lot.Can he play on the right, link with a fullback and get crosses in?
We will never know what went behind the scenes. For all we know, Jose was warned him for few games before dropping him completely.Those are some pretty damning comments from Mourinho. I do agree with the premise of what's being said but I find it a bit weird given how Mkhitaryan was given a relatively free ride in the weeks leading up to the Newcastle game and the sudden change of tack following the international break.
Nonetheless, I hope he's given the opportunity to put it right instead of an endless period on the sidelines.
Seems that you're also a fan of BvB besides United, right ?Not me. He needs to move around, but not exclusively centrally. Something like against CSKA.
I think it was the cowardly display vs Chelsea that probably did it. Personally i think he looks out of shape, he doesnt run as hard anymore and always seems second to every ball. I see him being out of the squad for a while now, a bit like last season where he was put on a strict training regime.Those are some pretty damning comments from Mourinho. I do agree with the premise of what's being said but I find it a bit weird given how Mkhitaryan was given a relatively free ride in the weeks leading up to the Newcastle game and the sudden change of tack following the international break.
Nonetheless, I hope he's given the opportunity to put it right instead of an endless period on the sidelines.
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Dortmund sniffing around as well apparently, they love a fecking buy back that crowd.
Well, if you remember, Ginter was on fire on the beginning of the season on the right. Dunno, Miki needs something to change here. Just keep it simple. Maybe Pogba will help.Seems that you're also a fan of BvB besides United, right ?
Actually, Mkhitaryan's movement in his last season for Dortmund was very good. He kept great balance between drifting inside and staying out wide. Don't know what the feck made him drifting inside all the time and leaving the right flank vacant every time he played RW for us.
