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A lot of fans were asking why Jose kept playing Miki, even though Miki was playing consistently bad.
Jose mentions this.
And it seems that Dortmund have a situation where their players do well for them, but when they move to a big club, they suck!
Some people never learn.
Jose mentions this.
And it seems that Dortmund have a situation where their players do well for them, but when they move to a big club, they suck!
The interesting thing is that a lot of MUFC fans want us to buy Pulisic. I believe that if he came here, he'd be another Miki/Kagawa.
Some people never learn.
This is something that a lot of people forget.
The guy has been with us for 1.5 seasons and he sucks.
We are not talking about a player who has been here for 3 weeks and must be given time (Lindelof comes to mind, here). In fact, Miki's performance has gone further and further down and the worry is that if we keep playing him, he'll get even worse, which will ultimately effect his re-sale value.
I think the best place for him is Dortmund.
The way some talk, it was as though Dortmund was full of only world class players. Reus was the flavor some time before it fizzled out, then Weigl was the favorite last summer, most wanted him over Matic. Now it is Pulisic.
If Dortmund players are that good, they would be top of the Bundesliga and through to the Ro16 in the CL. Enough buying from them.
Game over for Mkhi.
Great player at Dortmund, hasn't worked out for him here.
Great player at Dortmund, hasn't worked out for him here.
I thought he'd be off on page 1 of this thread. I wish I'd been wrong.
Because Reus was genuinely class. So is Weigl. In fact, Dortmund only has Weigl and Guerreiro as their WC players. Even in 2015/2016 when Mkhitaryan was gorgeous, the only 3 i would consider WC are Gundogan, Hummels and Reus (Weigl was a bit young).
We don't do too well with Dortmund players do we?
No one does
Sadly not as I thought both him and Kagawa would be stars.
Even on his return, he didn't set the BL alight
Ilkay was doing brilliantly for City before his injury, and it’s no secret what Lewandowski has done since leaving Dortmund either.
If people are genuinely trying to push some sort of theory that a player who does well for Dortmund isn’t really a good player, as some sort of rule, then the caf is still managing to outdo itself I see.
If people are genuinely trying to push some sort of theory that a player who does well for Dortmund isn’t really a good player, as some sort of rule, then the caf is still managing to outdo itself I see.
That's spot on, Mkihitaryan was doing well at the beginning of the season, but he got worse and worse. Lots were saying that it was like playing with 10 men with him on the pitch.
Man Utd 1:0 Brighton
False footballer
Hardly had a chance to show anything maybe he might get more of a chance next few games
Was lively.
Hard to really judge him today, looked up for it at least.
The sight of him standing still or galloping slowly around, while everybody even Zlatan was chasing balls and putting pressure on the Brighton defenders got on my nerves. I lost my patience with this guy.
Hi Moyes!
Is that a new role Guardiola created for him?
He barely played any minutes and was actually lively. I dont get the hate for the guy on Red Cafe, giving him a bad rating even though he barely played and was rated second worst next to Mata. There were at least 5 other players that played worst, and had much more time on the pitch.
What?
For me Mikhi needs to be given another opportunity, even Jose thinks so. He was excellent at the start of the season as was Man Utd. But even without him we have been poor lately. I think the system and injuries have played a part in his decline. With Pogba back and almost a completely fit squad,IMO both Man Utd and Mkhitaryan can reach top form soon.
Something that Moyes would say
It's no hate, I've defended him before and will defend him again if I find he didn't deserve some criticism. Today he didn't do anything that showed he wants back in the first 11, I felt he should put more effort and commitment.
And please do tell us who are those 5 players that were worse than him?
I think he'll start v Watford, Ibra for Lukaku and Herrera for Pogba.
We've played an awful amount of football this week so its either rest Pogba on Tuesday or he'll be fecked for the Arsenal game.
We need Mkhi at his best on Tuesday.
We've played an awful amount of football this week so its either rest Pogba on Tuesday or he'll be fecked for the Arsenal game.
We need Mkhi at his best on Tuesday.
Im not singling you out buddy, I just think people are just rating this game bad because he played bad before in other games, more of a biased opinion and not based on the match at hand. I agree that he has been poor previously... question is what did he do to deserve a 4/10 in this game? Did he loose the ball, did he not complete passes, was he not running around playing defense, did he not carry the ball up transitioning to attack? Only on one occasion i saw him get dispossessed right after Zlatan got tackled... and in that occasion he was stuck between 2 defenders and lost his footing after making the initial move to loose the first defender. Ya he didnt shine and I definitely think he should have made a better impression after being rightfully left out of 2 games.. but 4/10 average for this game????
He was in no way lively though, and he was jogging around to close people down.
Could have had a chance to score a couple of times he was in the box when he didnt receive the ball, overall an average display by no means a terrible one.
I apologize for saying he was lively. Will continue to bash him at every oportunity.
Its very simple. At Dortmund they are believed in, play good attacking football and if they have an off match its no worries because they are still the guys. Miki and Kagawa come in and they dont have that here. Its a battle to get into the team, then a battle to keep their place and either the manager or the fans can see just 1 bad performance and you're out of the team for months. They lose their confidence, dont believe in themselves as much and then lose their edge. It happaned with Kagawa who used to score plenty of goals at Dortmund but wasnt often on the sheet here, its now starting to happen with Miki. But it goes for players at any other club with lesser expectations too.
First, Mikhi has been terrible under Klopp who's supposed to be an offensive manager as well. He had only one good season there so let's not pretend as usual that the problem is all in our club while the players are fantastic and needs another club to shine. For once let's think that the problem maybe in the player himself.
Second, Kagawa is a complete different case than Mikhi.
Stop making things up.
Didn't know what False 10 was, until I watched Mkhi.
Bayern says hi
Lewandowski/Hummels were probably more of a sure thing than the others, but yeah, good point.
Dordmund was terrible that season. Klopp was simply done. Dont overreact please.
Total nonsense. Every player jogs around. You simply cant just run all the time. He did run quite a lot. Watch it again. He had one chance but he slipped and lost the ball. He kept the ball pretty good in the last few minutes and saved precious seconds which allowed us to keep the advantage and the 3 points. I think CAF fans are just overreacting here.
We are going to park the bus against Arsenal and City. Jose will be thinking that 2 points wont be bad. The season is long and he will be counting on Christmas. This puts all of our attacking players in a peculiar position. They will generally be shit. Rashford and Martial will dribble and lose the ball and the rest will run around aimlessly. Lukaku will drop and try to pick up the ball and lose it. Zlatan will come in to show his Lion Face and pretend that he is still a world class. I may sound like a couch surfer but I m seriously tired of the bullshit tactical setup Jose offers every time. I want to see attacking football.
So if the whole team is terrible it's okay to give a play a free pass or what ? He was part of that mess.
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