Cheers lads, don't agree with not celebrating a goal for your own club but you can see what he means.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He never actually said that, and there's a vine going around of Shaw celebrating our equaliser against Chelsea earlier in the season.
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That's pretty much what I thought. He never really said that he won't want to celebrate, just that he won't know how to celebrate against them, which is fair, because he doesn't really score that often anyways.
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Not sure anything is really happening to him here. He's a young player who has had a (relatively) poor season after making the step up. Hardly the end of the world. I mean we didn't sign him thinking he'd be amazing from the get go, this is a long term thing.
Nothing is 'happening' to him. He's a young player, bought for the long term, who's been kept out for the most part this season by a couple of muscle injuries and a couple of injuries from bad tackles. On the few occasions he's played he's been good.
'Another blow to his fragile self-esteem', indeed. Unless Neil Ashton is his therapist or his mum, he's pulling this rubbish out of his arse.
'Another blow to his fragile self-esteem', indeed. Unless Neil Ashton is his therapist or his mum, he's pulling this rubbish out of his arse.
I imagine it was hard to write such a shit article but he did it.
I'm not reading that but he came off at halftime injured. Ever since that game the press have decided that he's now a flop. All things considered, he's had a decent first season disrupted by injuries.
Shaw will need to knuckle down and win his place back from Blind next season you'd imagine, not just because Blind has played well there lately but because hes clearly one of LvG fave's, Shaw is certainly capeable of winning the spot due simply to talent, but it might not be the smooth transition he'd have been expecting walking in the door last summer.
I've not been so sure about a player having a long career at the club since Rooney. Not remotely a problem.
That made me laugh out loud, because it's true
I believe Neil Ashton, he is a well respected journo, dont know why some of you dont believe the story.
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He's 19. Perfectly normal to feel a bit out of place at the moment (if he does). He personally may have benefitted more from another year at Southampton but I'm glad we've got him and hopefully he'll settle down.
Looks like he'd be a right porker if he wasn't playing football every day.
Looks like he'd be a right porker if he wasn't playing football every day.
He's often an inflammatory dickhead but the story has a personal touch that makes me believe he's been briefed in some way
You white text wanker!
What is there to 'believe' about that article anyway? It's clear he's struggled, but that's natural. van Gaal made the comments about his fitness last summer. Loads of players will get specialist dietitians, especially younger ones at big clubs.
I thought he was injured? But trust Neil Ashton to conjure up shite as per usual.
I think Shaw has looked decent in the games he's played in. It's a shame he's struggled with injuries/fitness because he really could have done with playing more games this season. He's only 19 and has already proved himself as a top left back at Southampton so I'm still confident he'll come good and be our left back for the future.
When he has played, I think he has done very well. The signing wasn't for this season, it was for the next 10+years.
Seems like a strange article. Van Gaal obviously doesn't care about how much players cost as a measure of how often to play them. Its all about current player form and how well they fit into the team puzzle. If Blind, Young, and Valencia are doing what Van Gaal wants at the moment, then Shaw, Di Maria, and Rafa are just going to have to wait their turns.
what he needs is a good summer rest and an undisturbed pre season.
Not happening. I suspect he'd be in the u-21 squad.
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Something weird is going on with him this season. He has not been listed with an injury for a while but, he has had some fitness issue that has lasted like half of the season.
He could have 4 difficult seasons from now and I'd still stick by him because he'll still only be 24 with all his best years ahead of him.
Ridiculous to write him off now.
Ridiculous to write him off now.
Yeah it's absolutely silly to overreact. He definitely has had a frustrating season, but he has shown glimpses as to why we bought him. I have no concerns whatsoever.
So Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain confirms what we all suspected - Luke Shaw is quite the tool.
What kind of team sign a player to wait for 4 years for him to be of any use? So far it's been a bit pointless. Could've done with staying at Southampton and us signing someone established because as we've seen with jones and smalling things aren't that simple in regards to making the grade just because you are young with potential.
No concerns? Yet any others who are continuously unavailable are crocks and should not be relied upon.
There is a difference between a player who just came, and players who have been at United for years.
Why all the panic, pointless addition and all.
He had a difficult 1st year, he'll get better and be more fit and luckily we have players who can play instead of him.
I am big fans of Smalling and Rafael, so there injury records don't bother me. I have question marks over Jones but have rarely, if ever, mentioned his inability to stay fit as one of those question marks. So yep, no concerns about Shaw or any of the others who have been injured this season.
Saying he will get better is not a guarantee though. Jones was lauded as the next Edwards when we signed him and heck he's still as rash and unpredictable as he was back in 2011. I want Shaw to do well but so far it's been a poor signing, obviously he has time on his side but I've been far more impressed with Blinds performances at full back than Shaw's, not to mention he can actually play more than 2 consecutive games without being gassed/crocked.
That's a nonsense article. He's had a decent enough debut season for a 19 year old lad making the transition from Southampton to United and to boot have been plagued with injuries. Said it before: So many sports journos are stealing a living - apparently one can just pull stories out of whichever arse is closest and get paid for it.
I guess that's just down to LvG wanting his players to be back 100% before featuring. van Persie has been back in training for almost two weeks now right?
Well that's not what I said is it?
I said that even in that scenario I wouldn't worry because he will still be young. It just highlights how ridiculous it is to be writing him off yet.
There's nothing wrong with signing talented young players and then showing patience in them adapting to the quality and pressures of the club.
no surprise on that video. Barkley and Shaw both come across that wayAgree. What surprises me a bit is that he had no qualms about answering who's least intelligent, but on the question about who's longest in he shower he seemed quite reluctant to "incriminate" anyone
Consistent lad, that.We've changed the setup to something more offensive, while still being a full back whos role is to support his winger rather than provide width on his own.
Shaw got brilliant pace and overlaps so hopefully he will look a lot better like Valencia/Blind has as a result at the full back position. I hope that playing and training as a wing back has helped him out offensively a little bit too.
Shaw got brilliant pace and overlaps so hopefully he will look a lot better like Valencia/Blind has as a result at the full back position. I hope that playing and training as a wing back has helped him out offensively a little bit too.
Are we still talking this nonsense even with the way Jones has been playing in recent weeks? And actually look at what Bobby Charlton actually said about Phil Jones before we continue repeating the next Duncan Edwards crap. Luke Shaw was the best LB in the league last season as a teenager. He will be fine once he gets over this weird fitness/injury issue he has been having this season.
Hopefully he plays tomorrow and puts in a good performance.
People would be hasty to sweep aside the contents of the article. It's written with a genuine source. Ashton, while being a shoddy writer, isn't going to speak on behalf of Shaw's parents without confidence in his information.
Worryingly, albeit it's something that can be dealt, I think the article slightly hints towards something quite wrong with Shaw. It gives the impression that he's really struggling to come to terms with the move away from home and the size of the club he's now playing at. He's 19 and his world has changed a lot. It wouldn't be at all unsurprising if he was struggling mentally. If he needs more support and an arm around the shoulder then the club and staff should be seeking to help him with that. I'm sure they are.
People would be hasty to sweep aside the contents of the article. It's written with a genuine source. Ashton, while being a shoddy writer, isn't going to speak on behalf of Shaw's parents without confidence in his information.
Worryingly, albeit it's something that can be dealt, I think the article slightly hints towards something quite wrong with Shaw. It gives the impression that he's really struggling to come to terms with the move away from home and the size of the club he's now playing at. He's 19 and his world has changed a lot. It wouldn't be at all unsurprising if he was struggling mentally. If he needs more support and an arm around the shoulder then the club and staff should be seeking to help him with that. I'm sure they are.
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