I think that's fair. He's not in that Xavi/Pirlo/Scholes elite, but the next one down is fair, at worst the one below that.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Chelsea 1:1 Man Utd
Some quality moments on the ball but once they started to pile the pressure on he disappeared and couldn't turn the midfield around, which is understandable at his age.
When we were on top he completely bossed it.
Sunderland 2:1 Man Utd
If Carrick moved any slower he'd be travelling back in time.
Needs to retire, as said about 100 times this season.
Passing is lovely at times, as usual but you need more from a midfielder. Pretty sure Giggs could still whip balls around like he does if you gave him enough time so it's not all that impressive.
Passing is lovely at times, as usual but you need more from a midfielder. Pretty sure Giggs could still whip balls around like he does if you gave him enough time so it's not all that impressive.
We need his passing ability, still by far our best passer.
Still our best midfield player. The difference in our play with him in the team is obvious.
Yet somehow no-one else in our team manages to play those passes. Strange that. At the end of the day our build up play is far more fluid with him there. That's far more important than him being caught in possession a couple of times a game.
he always struggles when he's closed down, closing down is a part of modern football, his time has come, no matter how good passer he is. He is certainly no scholes and his mobility is about the same at the end of Scholeses career..
Ah yeah, he's been picking out any Sunderland player he wants, worst player on the pitch.
As usual, his passing is massively overrated in terms of it's significance.
Been garbage today, not as bad as Schneiderlin though.
Hes forcing it too much today. Playing difficult passes to the forwards feet when he is surrounded by 3 players with back to goal is pointless.
He needs to relax ffs.
He needs to relax ffs.
What the feck is going on with him today?
That misplaced pass at the end pissed me off.
That would be Blind.
Ah, he'll play a decent ball in the second half and we'll be told no one else on the pitch is capable of it.
Why is he getting so much stick? Nearly all of our play in the first half went through him.
Not a chance.
All those goals we've scored from those killer Carrick passes this season...
When given absolutely no attention from an opposition midfielder.
If someone actually bothers to press Carrick and he messes up - then that's just bad luck or 'not his game'.
He goes into hiding so often, that or he'll drop deeper and deeper until he'll be in line with the centrebacks just to get the time on the ball he needs.
He is basically alone given how poor schneiderlin has been so far.
Schneiderlin needs to feck off forward to give Carrick space to operate.
As it is Schneiderlin is crowding Carrick out and giving him one less option to pass forward.
As it is Schneiderlin is crowding Carrick out and giving him one less option to pass forward.
You only need to look at the number of games we've failed to score in with/without him to see its significance. Even if you just look in the league alone, its 5 goalless games when he didn't start vs. 2 goalless games with him. Or looked at another way, we've failed to score in ~40% of our league games when he didn't start vs. 17% of our games when he did. You can't seriously think that's a coincidence?
Weird seeing the contrast in the opinions. I think Carrick has been awful.
Nonsense he's been woeful. At least Schneiderlin has made the occasional tackle, even with our goal, Carrick fecks around with it in the middle and the progressive passes come from Blind and Schneiderlin.
Dire today. The drop in performance has been huge.
He's untouchable for so many in here, him being unable to pass over 4 yards is Schneiderlins fault apparently.
Ok we get it. Calm the feck down and have a seat.
And if the seat breaks I'll blame the table.
Get your eyes tested then. Not my mistake. Don't quote me.
Are you a goldfish or is your memory that bad?
I think without him we have zero ability to pass between the lines. We basically need a younger more mobile version of him - unlike others I don't think it is impossible to find a player of his ilk but United make midfield signings look so hard.
DDG saving Carricks arse there. Lost the ball Again in midfield.
Well that might well be but if we're going to go down the statistics route (which some quite rightly are skeptical of - for the context in which they're used):
Doesn't exactly suggest he's a key player. He's played plenty of games too to boost those stats.
And this second half he's given the ball away almost every time he's got it. I'm sure that'll be Schneiderlin or Memphis' fault too
That makes for painful reading for his sympathisers, Schneiderlin outperforms him in every aspect.Well that might well be but if we're going to go down the statistics route (which some quite rightly are skeptical of - for the context in which they're used):
Doesn't exactly suggest he's a key player. He's played plenty of games too to boost those stats.
Wow. Use "per 90 minutes" rather than "per game" and it will show you how far Schneiderlin is behind Carrick.
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