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In my defence I’m on holiday in America and was driving from Key west to Orlando during the game.You're too late to the party ? Mourinho already confirmed this.
Whats been said? Any videos?
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In my defence I’m on holiday in America and was driving from Key west to Orlando during the game.You're too late to the party ? Mourinho already confirmed this.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/i-dont-...-pogba-stripped-of/10v4epk4kapll1cjazjqu9dm3rIn my defence I’m on holiday in America and was driving from Key west to Orlando during the game.
Whats been said? Any videos?
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Common sense is to listen to the press because they are more often right than not about any Mourinho stories.Agree, you’d think common sense would prevail with some people but obviously not! Should be a bannable offense.
Logic: Pogba is the seasons best player scoring and/or creating in most of our games this season after leading the French team to a world cup win. Jose calls a squad meeting to tell everyone he isn’t captain material.
Jose has warned our fans time and time again about listening to the press and yet some people don’t listen!! Bumholes!
I've posted it here: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/united-social-media-pics-2018-19.440323/page-13#post-23104566What does it involve?
What did he said exactly? If its the attack attack attack tweet then Mou pretty much said the same thing during the post match against Derby. In fact he couldn't understand why we seem to vanish the moment we are a goal up.Going off to media to mouth when club has problems? Undermining the manager publicly?
I don't really think Jose is doing a great job, but a player can't really be mouthing in the public all the time and not expect repercussions.
Yeah, it will be interesting how this will develop. Dont see them patching up.If I'm honest, I don't see how you turn around to a player and say.....you'll never captain the club again.....and continue to play them ??
Whoever that player is, I just don't see how that can work ?
Love it if it’s true! Pogba can feck right off. Not getting along with a manager is common, but going to the press every time he’s on his period just isn’t right.Tweet
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Miguel Delaney is badging it Woodward backs Mourinho so it looks like it.
I'm also on the players side. Jose is not getting it right and picks fights everywhere. It is clear that the players dont agree with him and it clearly shows.Mourinho seems to fall out with everybody these days. Personally I don't really mind Pogba's comments. The players are clearly frustrated with the tactics or lack of. It's only going to get worse and worse under Mourinho.
Well maybe if united didn't keep sending their most marketable player out to do all the interviews. ......Love it if it’s true! Pogba can feck right off. Not getting along with a manager is common, but going to the press every time he’s on his period just isn’t right.
Sorry but Mourinho taking swipes at his players constantly and many times just to bail himself out is going to cause the reactions we see - Mourinho cannot have it both ways and expect everything to be hunky dory. Pogba was in his line of fire during the off-season and he made comments against him that ensured he got an upset player back in camp, one with the status to actually feud with him and be backed by a club who don't want to lose him.Love watching Pogba but he's being a troublemaker. Yes, we could possibly be better off with him than with Mourinho, but what's to stop him criticising the next manager's tactics? This just isn't something that we as a club should tolerate because it undermines the manager's authority, even if the manager is not someone who is popular with many fans right now. Pogba moans about all the chatter in the press but then creates all the drama that fuels the fire.
I just wish we had a fully backed manager, whoever it may be. Plus a tough stance on players who try to undermine their authority. Instead we have this mess where there's now a cloud hanging over the current manager and we've barely begun the season.
Which is a major issue and why any comparison with Fergie is a false equivalency in the extreme.Respect is earned though.
Jose has not done anything in his current job to earn any.
Interesting point. I've been wondering the same.I wonder what the consensus would be on here if SAF came out in support of Jose.
I know I didn't always agree with SAF when he was winning us titles regarding certain issues (not investing in midfield, Obertan ). SAF is a legend but that doesn't mean he cannot be wrong, the whole Moyes episode taught us thatI wonder what the consensus would be on here if SAF came out in support of Jose.
Maybe if Pogba grew up and acted like a professional and took responsibility for his actions we’d probably have a great player on our hands. Not sending our most marketable player isn’t happeningWell maybe if united didn't keep sending their most marketable player out to do all the interviews. ......
Maybe I misread but did he not do exactly that and take responsibility for giving the ball away for the goal ?Maybe if Pogba grew up and acted like a professional and took responsibility for his actions we’d probably have a great player on our hands. Not sending our most marketable player isn’t happening
Cant blame pogba, football is currently lethargic atm and season is already over after just 6 weeks. What do you expect? Pogba just shutting his mouth and another season down the drain?Love it if it’s true! Pogba can feck right off. Not getting along with a manager is common, but going to the press every time he’s on his period just isn’t right.
Well, Fergie certainly wouldn't tell anyone to sack any manager, not publicy.I wonder what the consensus would be on here if SAF came out in support of Jose.
Yes! That’s what I expect. That’s what every other player is doing. He is a player and his only job is to perform on the pitch. Being frustrated is natural and I understand it. Not saying Mourinho is amazing but the day you give players a free hand that’s when you go to shit as a club. He said what he wanted to and these are the repercussions. Serves him rightCant blame pogba, football is currently lethargic atm and season is already over after just 6 weeks. What do you expect? Pogba just shutting his mouth and another season down the drain?
Totally agree and this is vintage Jose. Deflect, deflect, deflect. It's somebody else fault problem, not his unless it's the win. Pogba is a big personality and I'm in no doubt, there is a split. No expert but I've been watching Pogs relationship with Rom for a while on the pitch. Where's the love we saw between them when Rom first came? I suspect there are players in that dressing room thing, might be me next going under the bus....Mourinho set the precedent when he kept throwing the players to the press dogs every chance he got last season to save his face. Why didn't you guys support the players back then? Respect has to go both ways, Mourinho is not the supreme commander here, he is just like any other player working for a salary. Mourinho has earned zero rights to act like he does, if this was SAF no player would have dared to pull this stuff, Mourinho hasn't earned that respect from this squad.
Even if we assume players like Pogba and Martial are not giving their all for the manager why are Mourinho's favorites like Matic, Lukaku and Sanchez look dogshite most games? The point is there is an issue with the coaching, I'd rather players speak out against this crap coaching instead of knuckling under and keep playing like shit every game.
At this point that's speculation, wouldn't surprise me to see Pogba on the bench SaturdayIf I'm honest, I don't see how you turn around to a player and say.....you'll never captain the club again.....and continue to play them ??
Whoever that player is, I just don't see how that can work ?
"Speculation" that he'll never play again? Do you think he will be frozen out properly?At this point that's speculation, wouldn't surprise me to see Pogba on the bench Saturday
100%I see nothing wrong with what Pogba said(may be could have left out the "manager has to do it" bit). You don't see Bayern fans turning on their players when they got rid of Ancelotti for not coaching properly. It's the United fan base that's refusing to move on with the time. Wake up and smell the coffee people, there won't be another Alex Ferguson and Jose fecking Mourinho is not even fit to lace the boots off the great man. He hasn't earned the respect to do whatever the feck he wants here. Our attacking play is shite and the fecker hasn't still fixed it.
Exactly. Just like no player is bigger than club, manager is also not above the club. Don't know what Jose achieved by saying that Pogba won't captain again in the press. Looks like Jose is not happy with someone else playing his games.100%
People have been brainwashed into thinking managers deserve to be at the club as long as possible, even when doing a poor job.
Just because Fergie turned it around (in completely different circumstances) doesn't mean others will. This is a different era and there is 0 signs of improvement.
Lampard has this Derby team playing MUCH better football within 12 games with loan signings FFS!
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Why the feck is this being allowed to happen? Cut the losses and move on from this tosser.Tweet
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Who knows what's going to happen next in this soap opera"Speculation" that he'll never play again? Do you think he will be frozen out properly?