Paolo Di Canio
"we have to realise it's a doggy dog market"
Never seen him being referred to as being unintelligent? Maybe idiot scousersComes across as extremely intelligent here. Not some brain dead lump he's made out to be.
Never seen him being referred to as being unintelligent? Maybe idiot scousersComes across as extremely intelligent here. Not some brain dead lump he's made out to be.
Yes, and it's quite clear that the deal is £75m initially, plus £15m in potential add-ons.Did you even bother to read it?
Everton's.Much worse than who?
Believe it's due to a common stereotype, the bigger you are - the dumber you are and vice versa.Never seen him being referred to as being unintelligent? Maybe idiot scousers
Fergie often signed strikers from other Premier League clubs and he probably would sign Lukaku or KaneAnyone else not terribly excited about Lukaku?
I think my problem is that with every big signing I seem to rate it by asking, "Would Fergie have signed him?"
I think he's just a big lump. Can you see him forcing one in in the 92nd minute? I don't.
He scored 25 league goals last year. Would love to see against who against.
His stats:
0.46 goals per game
45% on target
60 big chances missed
Last season
0.5 goals per game
50% on target
8 big chances missed
£75m for the sake of buying someone, or indeed so someone else doesn't sign him.
Incredibly uninspiring.
Yeah he's shite http://www.football365.com/news/romelu-lukaku-the-ridiculous-statistics-updatedAnyone else not terribly excited about Lukaku?
I think my problem is that with every big signing I seem to rate it by asking, "Would Fergie have signed him?"
I think he's just a big lump. Can you see him forcing one in in the 92nd minute? I don't.
He scored 25 league goals last year. Would love to see against who against.
His stats:
0.46 goals per game
45% on target
60 big chances missed
Last season
0.5 goals per game
50% on target
8 big chances missed
£75m for the sake of buying someone, or indeed so someone else doesn't sign him.
Incredibly uninspiring.
Who cares about the fee, though? If Ed thinks Lukaku is worth £75m + add-ons then so be it. It's a mere drop in the ocean for the richest club on the planet. Besides, the cost of this transfer will likely be recouped inside a year.Yes, and it's quite clear that the deal is £75m initially, plus £15m in potential add-ons.
No - we're citing the deal reported by the BBC, which is £75m + an additional potential £15m. The question you should be asking is why so many United fans are trying to deny these figures.All other PL fans are getting itchy These are the times that it feels great to be a United fan. Not only have we stamped over Chelsea in this deal, but now fans from Spurs and Liverpool are circling trying to inflate transfer fees and state they are happy we signed Lukaku (proven PL goal scorer) instead of Morata.
United had an average enough season last year, however still won a few trophies and here we are signing a top PL player ahead of the current Champions.
Exactly. So the transfer fee is £75M until them add-ons are paid.Yes, and it's quite clear that the deal is £75m initially, plus £15m in potential add-ons.
It's kind enough they wanted him in the first place where even the rich china clubs steered clear from him. 300k per week. 15m per year. You want us to be stuck with him for another 2 seasons and take up a valuable squad place? Just so we could bag a few more millions. Ridiculous. The wages saved alone is good enough for us.Well clearly not because Everton want him back and are willing to pay his wages. All I'm saying is we could do better with negotiating the fee. It's this 'yeah you can have our players for free but we'll pay you £75 million for yours' that I disagree with. Sure, £25 million may be a high but you start high and negotiate downwards when selling. You don't ask, you don't get. And that's what Everton and Real Madrid have done, ask. £75 million is a ripoff for Morata and Lukaku but hey, there'll always be one mug club who pays it.
Not just Rooney but look at some of our terrible sales over the last few seasons:
Nani - £5 million
RvP - £5 million
Chicharito - £7 million
Michael Keane - £2 million
Memphis - £13 million
Schneiderlin - £19 million
Zaha - £ 3 million
Those are 1996 transfer fees.
I'm a Spurs fan and I will be honest I'm glad he signed for you than Chelsea.All other PL fans are getting itchy These are the times that it feels great to be a United fan. Not only have we stamped over Chelsea in this deal, but now fans from Spurs and Liverpool are circling trying to inflate transfer fees and state they are happy we signed Lukaku (proven PL goal scorer) instead of Morata (£90m bench warmer).
United had an average enough season last year, however still won a few trophies and here we are signing a top PL player ahead of the current Champions.
As a few people in this thread have said, he isn't at all dissimilar to many Fergie signings.Anyone else not terribly excited about Lukaku?
I think my problem is that with every big signing I seem to rate it by asking, "Would Fergie have signed him?"
I think he's just a big lump. Can you see him forcing one in in the 92nd minute? I don't.
He scored 25 league goals last year. Would love to see against who against.
His stats:
0.46 goals per game
45% on target
60 big chances missed
Last season
0.5 goals per game
50% on target
8 big chances missed
£75m for the sake of buying someone, or indeed so someone else doesn't sign him.
Incredibly uninspiring.
Yeah, we bought him for the sake of buying someone. Not because we are in desperate need of a goal scorer and guess what. He scores goals. Jesus.Anyone else not terribly excited about Lukaku?
I think my problem is that with every big signing I seem to rate it by asking, "Would Fergie have signed him?"
I think he's just a big lump. Can you see him forcing one in in the 92nd minute? I don't.
He scored 25 league goals last year. Would love to see against who against.
His stats:
0.46 goals per game
45% on target
60 big chances missed
Last season
0.5 goals per game
50% on target
8 big chances missed
£75m for the sake of buying someone, or indeed so someone else doesn't sign him.
Incredibly uninspiring.
Question is why are you taking those unconfirmed figures to be the the final and definitive ones?No - we're citing the deal reported by the BBC, which is £75m + an additional potential £15m. The question you should be asking is why so many United fans are trying to deny these figures.
I think it's important because it means Tottenham wins the Club with gazillion £ price tag striker Trophy. Congrats Glaston, on winning something.I'm not sure why there is so much interest from a Spurs fan on a Man Utd transfer involving an Everton player and Chelsea, its embarrassing.
If you take out pens he is probably top of the PL since 2012-3 list.Yeah, we bought
Yeah, we bought him for the sake of buying someone. Not because we are in desperate need of a goal scorer and guess what. He scores goals. Jesus.
– Premier League goals since 2012/13:
Sergio Aguero – 99 (147)
Romelu Lukaku – 85 (176)
Harry Kane – 78 (105)
Olivier Giroud – 69 (126)
Christian Benteke – 66 (154)
Luis Suarez – 54 (66)
Wayne Rooney – 54 (142)
Alexis Sanchez – 53 (103)
Diego Costa – 52 (89)
– Club goals before age of 23:
Ronaldo – 194
Raul – 145
Lionel Messi – 127
Sergio Aguero – 124
Romelu Lukaku – 119
Michael Owen – 111
Cristiano Ronaldo – 97
Fernando Torres – 87
Wayne Rooney – 94
Luis Suarez – 77
David Villa – 70
Zlatan Ibrahimovic – 69
Alan Shearer – 65
Thierry Henry – 57
If you'd like to read more (and I suggest you do):
http://www.football365.com/news/romelu-lukaku-the-ridiculous-statistics-updated
such a pathetic player.
Yes, and the total deal is potentially £90m ... and most add-ons end up being paid.Exactly. So the transfer fee is £75M until them add-ons are paid.
Until the fee is confirmed by either Everton or Manchester United I'd hang fire because we paid over £100 million for pogba last year in very news paper going until it was officially announced that figure was £89 million.No - we're citing the deal reported by the BBC, which is £75m + an additional potential £15m. The question you should be asking is why so many United fans are trying to deny these figures.
I stand corrected then, seems a bizarre announcement to make in any case. Not sure what it achieves.
Add-ons aren't part of the fee though, that's why they are called add-ons. Plus, they then to include such things as "Premier League Champions = + 7.5m", "Champions League Winners = +10m" and considering the prize money for these things, they are hardly part of a "fee".No - we're citing the deal reported by the BBC, which is £75m + an additional potential £15m.
There are doubts, but then again there were doubts regarding all of our potential markets, whether that's Morata, Belotti or Lukaku. There are many arguments to be made for Lukaku to be a success at United. Now it's just a matter of being positive and believing in those.Anyone else not terribly excited about Lukaku?
I think my problem is that with every big signing I seem to rate it by asking, "Would Fergie have signed him?"
I think he's just a big lump. Can you see him forcing one in in the 92nd minute? I don't.
He scored 25 league goals last year. Would love to see against who against.
His stats:
0.46 goals per game
45% on target
60 big chances missed
Last season
0.5 goals per game
50% on target
8 big chances missed
£75m for the sake of buying someone, or indeed so someone else doesn't sign him.
Incredibly uninspiring.
The rule states that a player must be at a club for 3 years before turning 22. He joined Chelsea at 18, so that would make him eligible to qualify as homegrown.Seems he counts as homegrown.
Last year for Everton he was.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136
Cherry on the top if he does.
I don't know. I know times have changed, but PL teams seem to be only able to attract and sign second rate "world class" players these days. Would Lukaku ever be on the radar of a RM or Barcelona or Bayern? Maybe the scramble for him is a sign of the level of the PL and what a "huge signing" means these days. Maybe its my own disenchantment.As a few people in this thread have said, he isn't at all dissimilar to many Fergie signings.
As for him being a big lump, if you actually look at the goals he's scored for Everton you'll notice they tend to come from pace, movement and taking up the right positions rather than physical strength.
In fact there are likely to be times we wonder why he doesn't impose himself more on defenders given his size.
I see the stats. I'd genuinely like to know who all those goals are against.
I was about to post about this too. Their all round play is different, but of a similar level. Kane scores more because he has better players around him but I don't see a big difference either way.I've said it more than once this season, long before we were linked to Rom - but this imaginary gulf between him and Lukaku doesn't exist in my opinion.
Kane is not a great all round player, you won't see him go past people per se, and he's generally underwhelmed on his admittedly brief cameos on the big stage outside of the PL. I said earlier this year, but if both were English, people would not speak of this massive difference.
If Kane is 'better', it's marginal. He's a fantastic finisher, which is also Lukaku's strongest suit, and is technically better but has nowhere near the talent and technique of say, Mbappé himself either. He's slower than Lukaku too, which is a big deal over here.
I rate Kane highly, make no mistake, and created the 'Lukaku and Kane vs Shearer' thread earlier this year about how they BOTH stand a good chance to catch his record. This nonsense of 'Lukaku is worth £90m so Kane is worth £200m' stuff is bollocks of the highest order. Anyone who watched Kane in the CL, or in the Euros will know he's not the best striker in the world by any stretch himself.
That makes no sense! Many have tasted his touch, or so I hear, if you see what I mean … what's that smell?I'd be happier to hear him see, or hear him smell.
Not just last season, he's been improving year on year for a while now.The good thing about Lukaku is how much he improved last season. That game against Bournemouth shows the player he is now. A really top centre forward. Still, he is not the finished article as proven with his performance against us at OT. But at least we are buying players for the future now.
The table would look rather different if you convert it to goals-scored-per-minutes played.....
– Premier League goals since 2012/13:
Sergio Aguero – 99 (147)
Romelu Lukaku – 85 (176)
Harry Kane – 78 (105)
Olivier Giroud – 69 (126)
Christian Benteke – 66 (154)
Luis Suarez – 54 (66)
Wayne Rooney – 54 (142)
Alexis Sanchez – 53 (103)
Diego Costa – 52 (89)
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