I'm already thinking about which brand to start smoking again. Do they still make Woodbines?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I'm already thinking about which brand to start smoking again. Do they still make Woodbines?
Lads and lasses, any update regarding Hendrik Streeck's study? Can the virus spread through surfaces?
I am not really sure where you got this from:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-oxford-university-human-trials-a9467061.html
I am aware that most experts think that 12-18 is more realistic than 6, I was just saying that it is incredibly arrogant to completely write off six saying given that some of the people actually working on it think that it can be done in that time. I am not holding my breath and expect it to be six, but, as long as any experts are claiming it is possible, I will be hoping for it.
To be honest even if smoking cigarettes protects you from the Virus, it’s probably still statistically safer to take your chances with healthy lungs than to have the lungs of a smoker over the course of your life. Let’s not forget, the vast majority of people have a minor illness. People treat Covid on here like it’s the Black Plague.
Do I wanna get it? No. Do I wanna damage my health in other ways just because I might get it? No also.
Do I wanna get it? No. Do I wanna damage my health in other ways just because I might get it? No also.
That’s a good theory but even the age adjusted rates seem to show smokers doing surprisingly well. From memory it was a bit of a mixed picture. Smokers less likely to die than non-smokers but more likely to end up in hospital. Or something like that. Could be the other way round! Either way, it was massively counter-intuitive because everyone expected smokers to be the worst affected by every metric.
In fact that was the main reason given for Chinese men doing worse than Chinese women. Higher incidence of smoking in Chinese men. Turns out that wasn’t true at all. The latest theory for men doing worse than women is that the virus hides from our immune system by hunkering down in our balls. Seriously. Sneaky little bastard.
feck right off
does that mean if you have comically gigantic balls you'll get more corona?
Is this really true?Yep, I was not sure. In any case, they seem to be 6 weeks behind Moderna, and a few weeks behind some other companies who are doing testing for a while now.
Nothing to suggest that somehow they will leapfrog the others, especially considering that for most part now it is going to be just testing, and I expect the testing to last more or less the same for every vaccine.
Fake news just in, doctors advise multiple testicle clearouts a day to rid yourself of coronavirus.
I could be completely wrong but I think it's down to the devolution powers of the Scottish and Welsh governments.
Don't take me too seriously.
I'm kinda half joking with the cannabis hypothesis, but just like with tobacco and nicotine, it is certainly possible something similar could happen with cannabis. My personal experience would indicate there is something to it, because I know a lot of smokers, and I'm yet to know of anyone sick. Even though it's probably just coincidence, had to mention it when I read that nicotine article.
The only two stoners I know of living in a covid-19 hotspot (Manhattan in this case), are my brother and his wife, and so far they are ok, thankfully. Im hoping it remains the case, whether by luck or by the mighty THC.
That sort of aligns with my hypothesis on why Germany has such good outcomes.
It’s a theory based on a single, small study. Generated a lot of newspaper headlines but probably a load of bollox (see what I did there?)
Which would mean chronic super-spreaders would also be chronic man-spreaders.
I'm a vaper, I haven't smoked cigarettes for years now. It would be nice to think nicotine did something other than keep me sane ....
Rebuttal @oates ?
That is correct.
His insiders blame England specific procurement legislation introduced by Cameron's government. As far as I can see some people argue the legislation was introduced to combat against large scale fraud in the sector whilst others argue it's a secret Tory plot to sell off the NHS piecemeal. Fair to say its a politically emotive subject.
My question would be if it is an England specific thing then why are only some hospitals/trusts badly affected, something he acknowledges in the thread. Obviously there will be many variables affecting this but the journalist doesn't explore any of them in anyway but focuses the insiders that blame the procurement issues.
I'm not saying that the insiders are wrong in what they say, only that if there are quite a few anomalies operating under the same rules then the specifics need to be looked at.
The difference I observed in college was that average pot smokers inhaled less actual puffs of smoke per day than the hardcore cigarette smokers would smoke per cigarette (bong hits of high THC California pot). I counted this back then and the heavy cigarette smokers (1 pack+/day) were inhaling more puffs of smoke in a single day than the average pot smokers would take in 3-4 weeks. Even assuming the smoke is equaling damaging, the cigarette smokers were inhaling exponentially more of it and far more regularly throughout the day.
Lots of pot smokers roll joints with tobacco so the argument isn't exactly apples vs oranges.
A lot of pot smokers don't filter though unlike pre-bought cigarettes and those filters really do take out a lot of the crap.
that's how every smoker i know started out
depends on the city from my experience. That wasn't really a thing in California, the land of the bong, whereas my NYC friends, would do that all the time. At least the people I knew, there was a huge amount of pot smokers that wouldn't ever smoke tobacco.
Bong hits certainly less damaging than joints, as the smoke is cooled and (partially) filtered by the water. You’re still setting stuff on fire and sucking smoke right down to the bottom of your lungs. Which is not going to do them any good, put it that way.
I'm certain that you find a correlation between weed smoking and believing that Corona is spread by 5G.
I can confirm @Penna has a butt, certainly.
Mr. Sadeq Elhowsh an orthopaedic surgeon who worked at The Whiston Hospital, a part of St Helens and Whiston Hospitals NHS Trust, is another doctor who lost his life on the frontline today. This is the response from the hospital to the arrival of the hearse.
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Anyone else worried about a spike in crimes if we all have to wear face-masks? 
Not really.Anyone else worried about a spike in crimes if we all have to wear face-masks?
Yea we did too (Manchester). I remember everyone punching each other in the arm for weeks afterwards.
Anyone else worried about a spike in crimes if we all have to wear face-masks?
Not really, no. CCTV does absolutely feck all to solve most street crimes anyway, someone wearing a facemask won't make much difference there.
Haven't most in the UK already had that vaccine?
Florida planning to reopen for business
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....m6zhwhprhchprndbovq-story.html?outputType=amp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....m6zhwhprhchprndbovq-story.html?outputType=amp
Doesn't the BCG vaccine wear off though? Thought I read this was debunked weeks ago in terms of if you had it a long time ago. Not saying a recent or new injection wouldn't help but in the UK almost every teen had it at school spanning 50 years.
Not available in my territory, i fear for the USA with an early opening like Florida are looking to implement.
You need to get a shot after every 10-15 years.
Also India has large number of TB cases despite BCG vaccine. Before coronavirus happened, Indian Council for Medical Reasearch were carrying out survey of TB and found only 30% ( still in preliminary stage) had developed antibody as a result of vaccine. BCG is not even effective against TB for which it was created.
BCG protects (partially) against TB only for a very long time. It also gives a short-term protection against a load of other respiratory pathogens for a short time after you get the jab. So it’s extremely unlikely that it’s protecting against covid many decades later. So yes, you’re basically correct. There’s most likely other reasons for countries which vaccinate everyone with a BCG having relatively low mortality from covid.
This was somehow acceptable practice in British schools. Teenager logic...