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Like I said. I haven't watched Fosu-Mensah play, so I go by statistics, and by statistics it's hard to say that Fosu Mensah is anywhere near Man Utd level.
How so?
Yes i wonder why Schwarzenegger never won balon d'or
Yes coaching has nothing to do with performance
That's not what I said. Mou is a great coach with regards to defense, we all know this. I think with regards to Mata, Lukaku, Martial and so on, there is credible criticism of Mourinho. I don't see what would be hindering Lindelöf. He just looks average to me. A bit above average with the ball but poor physically. He's obviously not a leader, either.
And what does physicality have to do with a center back playing as a fullback?
They want him to go to the gym
Who said it was a failing? Whether it is or not depends on the situation and stats alone don't tell you that. We have some players in our defence who will play the safe pass without even looking at other options, Lindelof is not one of them.The backwards pass brigade (sigh). Never played the game. Only ever saw it in a computer, and heard about stats. FFS! Playing backwards isnt a failing. It is sometimes a very intelligent thing to do. To get a deeper knowledge of Association Football, look at Dutch total football in the seventies. Look at Barcelona at their peak. Look at whoever you like. As you, the great and honourable @11101 rightly say this stat tells you absolutely nothing ... well not about Lindelof, anyway.
This.
That was 8 matches ago and everyone agrees he was shit those matches. However, if one can't see the improvement post those matches, there is no point even discussing.
The team with - by far- most backward passes this season is Manchester City. Also the team with by far most goals and points...The backwards pass brigade (sigh). Never played the game. Only ever saw it in a computer, and heard about stats. FFS! Playing backwards isnt a failing. It is sometimes a very intelligent thing to do. To get a deeper knowledge of Association Football, look at Dutch total football in the seventies. Look at Barcelona at their peak. Look at whoever you like. As you, the great and honourable @11101 rightly say this stat tells you absolutely nothing ... well not about Lindelof, anyway.
I was one of those.
This. Sometimes I wonder how Jose got this successful. I can just imaging him thinking, I know we've got Tuanzebe and TFM but I'll go and spend 30m anyway on someone who's worse. Trust me people are going to eat their words about this lad and that 30m is going to look cheap. Ball playing CB aren't easy to find....
I was agreeing with you...
Smalling is a decent passer of the ball, Jones is not bad and that description is not a fit for Bailly.
Opinions differ then is all I can say. To my (admittedly non-managerial) mind, Smalling is risky even when passing to DDG!
This is the concern for me. Pace is probably the one attribute a player can't really work on. It's likely the reason a top ball player likes Blind isn't starting every week. There's just no way around it in a league like the Prem, it is a deal-breaker.
Seriously? Then name at least one moment in the game, any game at United, when he actually showed these so-called "ball playing" skills?
Lindelof had a real stinker against Bristol. That was three games ago, including Everton's. So what you are on about, 8 games, what's that? Have you seen him at Bristol? Do you think that was a decent performance?
Sure, but what you do, is you get a player who is versatile, who can cover at different positions.
I don't see any improvement.
Should have done that from the startI was one of those.
But he has shown massive improvement since then and who is to say there will not be more in future.
I'll give the kid a chance.
It's ok to say that Lindelöf needs to work on say his aerial play, but to say that Lindelöf never have shown good passing abilities should be regarded as trolling. Look at the ball to Rashford against Southampton, that's just a few days ago. That ball opened up an attack that could've easily resulted in a goal.
He's done two matches as right back already and covered well. In none of those have Man Utd lost, and when goals were conceded against Leicester it was at the opposite flank.
That's because you don't know anything about football. People who understands football immediately see major improvements in his matches. Composure, positioning, passing have all improved. If you look at his ratings you also see a clear improvement. If he keeps on developing like this he will be a very good center back by next season.
His passing ability way below Baillys and Rojo.
You mean the hoof up front, well that was a decent long pass. The problem is a player with actually good ball playing skills would pass the ball forward in like 30-40% of the cases. While Lindelof making like a 1-2 passes forward in the whole game.
