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Eplel

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That half million from Reform starting to look really attractive to 30p Lee now.
 

NotThatSoph

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And what’s the point of representative democracy if the one you vote for doesn’t get a seat at the table, never mind a majority?

You ‘should’ vote for the Party that (a) has a chance of winning power and (b) is closest aligned to your beliefs, then work on the next fight, then the next one.
If that's how everyone voted, here's what Labour should do with asylum seekers and people considered illegal immigrants: send them to Ghana. This would be a way to compete with the Rwanda asylum plan, with Ghana being a bit closer to UK than Rwanda is, with a safer and easier way to travel to, and Ghana being a wealthier and safer country than Rwanda.

This way Labour would compete with the anti-immigration policy of the Tories, picking up votes from people who are very against asylum seekers but think the Rwanda plan is a bit much, while everyone who recognizes that this is insane would also vote Labour because the Ghana asylum plan is marginally better for them than the Rwanda asylum plan is.
 

TwoSheds

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Wow. I wonder how?

I guess the government who has been running the country for the last 14 years is not to blame.

If only she had been in charge of domestic affairs and could have done something about this threat.
Don't you know she got kicked out by the elites for being too honest and capable?
 

2mufc0

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This sort of rhetoric needs to be stamped out the same way the Jews control everything narrative.

Just goes to show how widely accepted Islamaphobia is.
 

rcoobc

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A Tory MP said he quit his ministerial role because he could not afford to pay his mortgage on a salary of £118,300.

Mid Norfolk MP George Freeman resigned as science minister in November.

In a blog post, he said he stood down: "Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn't afford to pay on a ministerial salary."

Downing Street said it had "no plans to change our approach to ministerial pay".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-68133873

What a shame. If only he had a job where he could have made a difference to the country's economy and to the mortgage payments of people.
Take home pay calculator says he gets over £6k a month
 

FireballXL5

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Oliver Dowden has just said everything would have been tickety-boo if Anderson had just apologised.
 

Bert_

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Hopefully the Tories do end up like UKIP and Labour become the default cenre-right party. Room for an actual transformative party to fill the space.

Or we become a right wing distopia were you get to choose between Hitler or Franco as PM.
 

Adisa

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Tories morphing into UKIP. Labour morphing into Tories. Good times!
The thing about your only principle being to remain at the centre is that you move right/left by default when a party's extreme faction takes over. Labout are currently to the right of the right of the Tory/Lib Dem coalition. Imagine that.
 

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Why do posters keep acting like those who are worried about what Starmer says and does are essentially bolsheviks who want hardcore communism? Hard left this and hard left that. Utopia? What are you banging on about? The guy hasn't got a socialist bone in his body, so why would people who value fairness vote for a guy who has his track record?

If he was in charge of the Libdems and they were on the verge of a huge majority, I doubt any of us Leninist-Stalinist-Trots would give two shits. But he's in charge of the main socialist party and he's just going to be a better Tory than the Tories. That's it. He's already bent the knee to Murdoch. He's an apartheid apologist. He's gutted the left of the party. He's lied, backtracked and u-turned like he was the second coming of Boris Johnson. He's got principles but, like the old joke goes, if you don't like them he has others. How can people think he's going to be any different from the tories when he's in favour of pretty much the same things, and his main criticism of them is that they haven't done what they said they would, but he will?

I think you're going to be very disappointed but I hope that it's me who is wrong. I really do.
This absolutely nails it for me.
 

Morty_

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I guess since she doesn't have a future in UK politics anymore, Truss wants in on the grift-train overseas, like Farage etc.

Might work out for her, the CPAC/QAnon audience are quite gullible.
 

That'sHernandez

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I guess since she doesn't have a future in UK politics anymore, Truss wants in on the grift-train overseas, like Farage etc.

Might work out for her, the CPAC/QAnon audience are quite gullible.
Those lot think anyone with a british accent is clever so long as they aren’t trying to tax them.
 

Reiver

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I guess since she doesn't have a future in UK politics anymore, Truss wants in on the grift-train overseas, like Farage etc.

Might work out for her, the CPAC/QAnon audience are quite gullible.
That's it exactly. Queen of the morons, for the morons.