Westminster Politics

Giggsyking said:
They can't. The doctors union does not allow for public serving doctors to strike according to the collective agreement between the state and the union. If the doctors decides to go with it without the permission if the union, they need to then pay compensation for the damage and will not be receiving their salary.

Private sector doctors (limited sector) can strike without union permission (but why would they? most probably they have better financial deals).
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I understand the legality of it. But I wonder what power unions and the government would have if they would decide to strike. fire the doctors? lets see how it goes. Sure doctors with their salaries can go a couple of months without salaries. Health care can't go without doctors in days
 
Dumbstar said:
Over 200k at today's London pro Palestine march. Lots of respect and solidarity given to the US university students (and teachers apparently) holding freedom up for the rest of us.

Along with the regular protest attendees like Corbyn you had Clare Daly, Irish MEP, giving both barrels to Biden and Sunak again. She's no shrinking violet. :lol: And Sinn Fein's Michelle O'Neil.
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Avi Shlaim was there also.
 
Speaking of strikes; college lecturers and professional service staff have been striking in Scotland for a few months due to threats of job cuts and the lack of any movement on pay deals (support staff haven't had a pay increase since 2021).

College management and the Education Minister seem to want to ignore that these workers are still on a salary that's three years old. It's got to the point where the unions have been forced to demand a meeting with the First Minister. The same FM who is resigning. So back to square one for those folk...
 
hobbers said:
He unceremoniously scrapped their deal with the Greens, which was what gave the SNP a slim majority.

And somehow this absolute clownfish thought that doing that and then walking into parliament and insulting everyone would make his party look stronger. But surprisingly it just triggered two confidence votes that he was guaranteed to lose.
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What caused him to scrap the deal?
 
hobbers said:
The Greens were suppose to be putting their ongoing commitment to the deal to a members vote. And this was maybe the SNP pushing them before they could jump.

But also the Green's are anti growth and anti business and a catastrophe in government, and that was creating a lot of tension within the SNP.
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Do you reckon this will pave the way for John Swinney's return?
 
hobbers said:
The Greens were suppose to be putting their ongoing commitment to the deal to a members vote. And this was maybe the SNP pushing them before they could jump.

But also the Green's are anti growth and anti business and a catastrophe in government, and that was creating a lot of tension within the SNP.
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So he was about to get snaked from the left?

It's interesting because much of the talk online is about him pushing too far left and losing the electorate
 
Debatable who has blown the better/stronger position - the majority Cons under Boris or the SNP.

The SNP might just take it though; they seem to have gone completely away from their whole raison d'etre in Independence, got heavily mired in the culture war, sleeze allegations to rival any Tory nonsense, got in bed with the Greens and pissed off a lot of the electorate involved in things such as Oil and Gas, then they pissed off the Greens by veering away from their net zero policies. Now they have the hate crime bill, which in reality is unmanageable. They have also got a very poor record in terms of education, health and the whole drugs/alcohol/addiction issue. They were untouchable a couple of years ago with Sturgeon in her pomp, now they must be under severe threat of only being able to form a very weak minority.

What is it with the current crop of "leaders" in the UK; all either useless, liars or massive hypocrites.
 
Sweet Square said:



He is just a terf right ? His views trans women as a inherent threat to others. Pretty fecked up.
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It's not even that though, it's just the fact the general public are transphobic, after being whipped up by the press into thinking they're all penis-wielding potential rapists, so he's just rolling with it. Spineless, empty vessel who's petrified of the press, rather than an active terf most likely.
 
Jippy said:
It's not even that though, it's just the fact the general public are transphobic, after being whipped up by the press into thinking they're all penis-wielding potential rapists, so he's just rolling with it. Spineless, empty vessel who's petrified of the press, rather than an active terf most likely.
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Possibly. Tbh the difference between a right wing terf and a spineless empty vessel is small Imo.
 
Sweet Square said:
Possibly. Tbh the difference between a right wing terf and a spineless empty vessel is small Imo.
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:lol:Yeah neither is a selling point, particularly when there's a generational opportunity to crush the Tories that is going to be wasted.
 
Jippy said:
:lol:Yeah neither is a selling point, particularly when there's a generational opportunity to crush the Tories that is going to be wasted.
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Oh definitely it’s going to be a huge waste. It will be a 1945 style landslide resulting in a David Cameron austerity package.
 
Fully Fledged said:
If you have had to use the NHS over the last couple of years you will see that the status quo isn't sustainable.
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Last time I used the NHS was in 2011 and the status quo wasn't sustainable then never mind now!
 
But then you'll get people coming in here saying you're a dickhead if you don't vote Labour to oust the Tories after yet another shite thing Starmer does.
 
SilentWitness said:
But then you'll get people coming in here saying you're a dickhead if you don't vote Labour to oust the Tories after yet another shite thing Starmer does.
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Those people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.

It's a mental block with them. :wenger:
 
Dumbstar said:
Those people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.

It's a mental block with them. :wenger:
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To compound that they remove any agency or fault from Labours leadership. Every action is excused as required to be elected, yet they don't follow that logic through to anyone but the right.

Quite simply If Labour fail to win someone's vote it is on Labour and no one else. They have the capacity to appeal to those voters they're losing, if they don't it's there choice. The only choice being between a centre right Labour and the Tories is a lie.

At this stage my main concern is Labour is going to become a Cameron style government and it'll be a reform opposition. If that happens the next election will be even worse and it'll be directly because of Labours shift right.
 
Obviously it's a bigger deal in the UK than in America because the manifesto has a constitutional role but moving to the centre ahead of a general election should be seen in a similar light
 
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