He's still lacking in strength and the ability to release the ball quickly. Huge potential, though.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Haven't seen him live that often. Could he play as CM in front of Schneiderlin and behind Rooney/Herrera for example or is he a CAM outright.
He'll start Friday..
From the little I've seen, I like him best at CM. Reminds me of Cazorla last season. He doesn't seem to have the end product of a CAM. I might be wrong though.
I agree with you. Personally like him much more as a deep lying playmaker than a number 10, much better when he has a little more space to turn and look up and pick his pass.
I thought he was more a CAM so he is actually the type of player that we need. FFS what a mess the club is in atm.
He might be a bit iffy in defensive positioning but all young players usually are until they get the experience. Partner him with Ander ahead of Schneiderlin though and he'd be grand, dropping deep and controlling the game as he has done in his limited minutes recently.
Hopefully he starts vs Derby. In his limited game time, I feel like his finally ball and crossing has been a lot better then most of our other players. Really knows how to spot a runner and actually pick him out, or whip in a cross. He's exactly the type of player we need in our midfield (once he develops) and would be plain stupid if we lost him like we lost pogba. He might not be on quite the same level potential wise, but he can without a doubt turn into a top player. Whatever the "it" factor thing is that the top youngsters have, he has it.
He's on the same level potential wise as Pogba in my opinion, he's brilliant for his age to be fair. And I agree that he seems to have that X-factor or whatever it's called these days. If he was playing regular football at a team like Ajax half of Europe would be after him, I'd bet my life on it.
Was nice having him whilst it lasted.
Relax. He'll probably go on loan for the rest of the season and when he comes back Vangle will have hopefully fecked off and we have a manager who actually uses young attacking players who seek to add something to a game; i.e, not Mourinho.
Hope LVG fecks off before he does.
Honestly if I was a player in his shoes I would probably leave in the summer unless LvG was gone. Staggering how few opportunities he's getting despite being one of our most talented youngsters
Perfect game to gel him in and he's on the bench
Wonder where we'll see him tearing it up in 2 seasons. Spain? Italy?
Must... play... Rooney...
It's criminal how his not even getting a few minutes, yet the donkey plays the full game.
Surprised he can't get games ahead of lingard.
one reason alone why should that fat fecker at the bench should be sacked, so many underperformers in the team and this exciting young lad cant get minutes over them..
The one time we actually get a nice comfortable lead when it's late in the game and he still doesn't put Pereira on.
Said that earlier today, and I'm still of that opinion.
Jaysus Christ! Pogba leaving has gotten United fans all nervous that a youth player isn't getting games. Patience guys, his time will come.
He's 20 years old and has loads of talent. It's nothing to do with patience, he should quite clearly just get a lot more game time then he does. If he doesn't play more, he'll leave. Simple as that. A kid as talented as him will have loads of big clubs after him who will give him more chances then we have, just like Pogba at Juve. Pogba left because he got feck all chances when he blatantly should have played a lot more, the same is happening with Pereira. The only difference is we have him tied down for a bit longer so we won't lose him on a free for now
I'd like to see him deep next to Morgan until Carrick is fit. I think he'll eventually end up a similar style of player to Modric, rather than a #10
A kid that good should be playing and given a chance especially in the current set up. If he fails so what. I think its been disgraceful how we have handled him and it definitely is Pogba * 2.
If I was him I'd be dying to leave on loan.
He is talented for sure and is clearly a level above his age group. However he has been poor whenever he's been given minutes on the pitch (bar the Ipswich game). His best games has always been when he's played within his age group. Fwiw I think he should have been played more times than he has but certainly not bad enough to advocate leaving. This is his first full year in the squad ffs.
I remember there were cries that Lingard wasn't getting any minutes at the start of the season. Then he had a good outing(against Everton I think) and has gone on to start half of our games since then. Also Janazaj was given lots of chances by Moyes and look how low his stock has fallen since then. What I mean by patience is that we shouldn't be treating Pereira as though he's a senior player who is being unfairly kept on the bench. He is still a very young player albeit a talented one.
How many 20 year olds have you seen regularly playing for any of the top clubs? This is why I mentioned the Pogba effect. Because he did it, we all suddenly think any high potential youngster can command a place at an elite club. I wan't to know these "big clubs" you[bosnian] refer to who will are more willing to give him said chances?
If Van Gaal won't sub him on in a game against Derby when we were leading, where's he going to get his minutes from?
The last 5 minutes of a frustrating home game when we've not looked like scoring and the fans are on the team's backs?
The last 5 minutes of a frustrating home game when we've not looked like scoring and the fans are on the team's backs?
Hopefully he'll get a loan because it doesn't look like he'll get any minutes under LvG.
He's been poor? That is an absolute myth. Everytime he makes a cameo most fans praise him.. I can only recall one poor performance the rest he's usually looked dangerous and positive. When Fellaini, Mata and Herrera have failed to set the world alight.. he definitely deserves a shot.
A player as gifted as him should be playing lots of games.. not stagnating on the bench. 20 is old when you consider his technical ability and he's already stronger than Mata.If he ends up not good enough so be it.. on the flip side you could be unearthing a big talent.
I think he is a huge talent and I hope we dont lose him. Must be frustrating to sit on the bench and watch players underperforming week in week out, while he just gets ignored. Every youth player got a run out for a few games and could show if he deserves a starting place, except for Pereira. And he was one of the first to got promoted to the first team and is probably one of the most talented. Youth players nowadays want to play if they are ready, and he is. Times have changed, if they are good enough they should play, and not sit and waste their talent on the bench. He will feck off soon enough, wont be short of suitors. With the right club, we could have another Pogba situation. Some just dont want to open their eyes.
I'm with you and surprised he's not had more minutes considering how bad Mata Herrera Depay Rooney Fellaini have all been.
What about Lingard. I firmly believe that Pereira could do a better job on the the right than him. He doesn't constantly fluff passes for a start.
Until he actually plays, fecks up and gets slaughtered here like Lingard. It's the same blueprint for most of our players really, they become a lot better when they don't play.
Having said that I was also pissed off that more of our youth didn't play yesterday, particularly Pereira and Adnan. It's high time we've given Martial some deserved rest, was no need for Fellaini either.
Pereira is a much better talent than Lingard. He is the best in his age group I believe. He knows how to look after the ball better than Adnan IMO. Similar to Mata, I think he has more spacial intelligence than Adnan or Lingard and can find space.
You are right though, he needs to prove it on the big stage.
Our fans are always going to praise him because it's a player they like. Same way they're reluctant to give Fellaini any praise but quick to criticise. Also, despite Varela showing enough to prove he could be a useful player for us, some want him replaced. McNair has been renamed McMare, Januzaj was getting picked on after the Southampton game for this 10 minute cameo. We tend to overate players we're fond of and vice versa.
I maintain that Pereira hasn't done anything on the pitch that tells me he's ought to play more games. I'd like to think the people who watch him day in day out in training are in a better position to judge whether he's ready for a prolonged stint in the side. Like all our youth players this season, I believe his time will also come.
If he's as good as most on here say, he'd surely be playing more. Remember, Martial too is only 20 but he doesn't seem to ever get rested, so the notion that if you're old enough you're good enough is not being ignored at the club. LVG certainly isn't scared of using youth when required.
Let's stop using Pogba as the example. He's one in a few cases that have gone on to succeed at an elite level. Also his case was different in the sense that he was being ignored even when all our midfielders were injured. Remember Rafael and Oshea in midfield? Pereira has more competition in his position now than Pogba ever did.
One shit poster calling him that doesn't mean he has been renamed that.
Well he might play, feck up and get slaughtered. However, he is far more talented than Lingard.
Why is everyone saying he'll do a Pogba? He's under contract until 2018.
Agreed.
And I still don't understand the logic to this.
How can anybody rate Pereira highly, when the guy has hardly ever played a full game?
It is a fair point. Pereira has impressed for the U-21s and in some of the game-time he's had for the first team -- but the truth is the hype isn't based on a lot. He's an excitable player though, and seems very creative which is exactly what we are crying out for. And when players who play in positions he can adequately cover -- Fellaini, Herrera, Mata and Lingard -- aren't exactly setting the world alight (Fellaini and Lingard being outright poor imo), it is only natural to wonder why he's not getting his chance. Also, if he's not getting his chance now, when we are at our absolute low-point in terms of creativity, it's hard to remain optimistic about his future. At the same time, it seems like LvG does not want to let him go on loan -- making the entire situation even more baffling.
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