This whole "entertainment" argument is opinion. You said La Liga is a "shite league". That implies that it is of poor quality, which it is not. The PL had a few teams doing well in the Uefa cup/EL for a few seasons, but it still does not compare to La Liga's record in the competition, which was not just good for a few seasons, but for the best part of the last 15 years. Maybe the PL at its best was better than La Liga has been, but it was still not "much better" like you claimed. Like La Liga being a "shite league", it was a silly, unfounded claim.
La Liga - 2015/2016
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The quality of the lower sides is abysmal. Maybe the point I am making is that yes, in fact a team like Watford would not be losing 6-0 at Madrid. It doesn't matter whether Man United and Chelsea are crap, that just means Warford can get points off them, I think if Man Utd were as good as Madrid they would not be winning so convincingly at home.
That game just there was a joke. Madrid were barely out of 2nd gear. 6-0.
Madrid and Barcelona regularly hammer teams in the CL, both in the groups and in the knockouts. Are they all abysmal too?
Ancelotti's Chelsea of 09/10 wasn't better than 07/08 Utd either, but they destroyed mid/lower-table opposition at home...
5-0 v Blackburn (H) -- finished 10th
7-2 v Sunderland (H) -- finished 13th
5-0 v Portsmouth (A) -- finished 20th
7-1 v Aston Villa (H) -- finished 6th (lol)
7-0 v Stoke (H) -- finished 11th
8-0 v Wigan (H) -- finished 16th
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5-0 v Betis (H) -- currently 14th
6-0 v Espanyol (A) -- currently 15th
10-2 v Rayo Vallecano (H) -- currently 19th
5-0 v Deportivo (H) -- currently 9th
5-1 v Sporting (H) -- currently 17th
6-0 v Espanyol (H) -- currently 15th
Don't see the difference. Hell, a superior Barça have only scored 5 goals twice so far in La Liga.
If Bayern Munich can lose 0-4 to Real Madrid so can Watford. They just lost to Nottingham Forest..
Real Madrid are not the most godly team ever. Even during that peroid they couldn't get past the last 16 they found it too easy against the lower teams. The league is too focused on those 2 clubs and that is why I find it boring. It is far superior over the Premier League even to the bottom in technical ability but it is just no where near as exciting to watch, never has been.
Football doesn't work like that, no they did not.
Such a pointless exercise, clearly most people watching it seem to enjoy the league. I don't know why some people need to have the acknowledgement that their league is nr1 in the world™
Can't we just enjoy both without someone telling us what a shit league it is after we trash a team? Where were you last week against Betis btw?
Can't we just enjoy both without someone telling us what a shit league it is after we trash a team? Where were you last week against Betis btw?
Chelsea also lost 4-2 at home against a team that finished outside the top 4. Dropped many points against lower league sides. It's very different.
I think Real Madrid's B team would spank Watford.
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Nobody said that they are. They have been one of the top three teams in the world for the last 5 seasons though.
Good to know, but the league being boring is just your opinion and not a fact.
Again, this is just your opinion, which you are obviously entitled to have. It would be easier to take any argument you make or opinion that you express more seriously if you didn't start your original post with "what a shite league La Liga is" though, as that is obviously wrong.
Yes, to the moneybags of Man City (who finished 5th). The mighty Mourinho went like 9 years and 150 league games at home unbeaten at Porto, golden-age Chelsea and Inter... in his first season with RM he was defeated twice at the Bernabéu, by Sporting Gijón (10th) and Zaragoza (13th); also lost away to Osasuna (9th) and further dropped pts against Mallorca (17th), Levante (14th), Almería (20th) and Depor (18th). And that was an RM side that reached the semi-finals of the CL. (before it became routine)
Anyway, of course RM and Barça drop less pts, but I don't agree at all that it's because the rest of the league is weaker.
Meh, I'm not sure. I just don't enjoy Spanish Football with the low tempo and flat atmpsphere and same teams challenging for the league and also the cups every year. Saying Real Madrid and Barca are so good has not satisfied me as I felt the same around 2007 when neither were up to much in Europe.
And that is just a technicality me calling it shite. Playing on that is stupid. You know full well I don't think it is literally poo out of an arse. I think it's shite as in really, really boring.
Madrid are vastly overrated imo. This is the era of Barca and Bayern., Madrid being tagged on with those two was always a joke to me.
What I will say about La Liga is that its the biggest stat padding league i have ever seen. They may be fantastic and all that but the stat padding warps all sense of reality from it all.
What I will say about La Liga is that its the biggest stat padding league i have ever seen. They may be fantastic and all that but the stat padding warps all sense of reality from it all.
The space they gave Ronaldo tonight. There is a reason he scores 20+ more goals than he did in the Premier League - where he was still a ballon d'or winner.
Barca and Real Madrid are averaging more goals per game in the Champions League than in La Liga.
Madrid and Barcelona are generally among the top scoring teams in the CL too, with their players picking up the top scorer awards. I suppose it is just a stat padding competition too.
What a surprise, I can´t believe that you're saying something negative about Madrid and la liga. I don´t know if had some personal problem with a madridista or perhaps Cristiano´s transfer was very painful but you have to try to overcome.
Ronaldo has double figures in the CL group stages despite being the invisible man in matches v the only team at their level (higher level actually)
Those CL averages huh?
Those CL averages huh?
Yes, no defender has ever given an opponent an inch of space in the PL.
He's surrounded by more effective offensive players? He's allowed to play the full 90 minutes of every single game by all of his managers not named SAF?
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You ok buddy?
Ronaldo scores lots of goals in the knockout rounds too. For Madrid, he has 9 goals in 12 last 16 matches, 8 in 10 QF matches and 7 in 10 SF matches. Those are very impressive numbers and there will not be many players, if any (probably Messi will be the only one), that will have better numbers than that. Not bad for an "invisible man". Wrong as usual.
Or...the lesser teams give him shit loads more room in Spain over England which is the truth.
No doubt he improved as a player but there is no way he would be scoring over 60 goals at a Premier League club. The Man Utd team he played in is better than the current Madrod team.
'On an individual level, it is easier to shine in England. There is more space.' - Fabregas
Personally i think it is harder to defend in premier league but easier to attack. There is a lot of space. The game is more open.
Suarez scored 30 goals in the Premier League while playing for Liverpool, which is far from an offensive elite team, without taking a single penalty and despite missing games due to suspension but Ronaldo couldn't score 40+ in the Premier League alone + Cup games + CL games to reach 60? Do we really have to go through this every single time after one of the top 3 teams in the world trashes a team 2 points above the relegation zone? 
But once again, you're equating scoring more goals with being better... RM have outscored Barça in 5 of the last 6 seasons in La Liga, and are looking on track to make it 6 out of 7 this year (already 10 goals ahead), and yet they only have 1 league title in those 6 seasons to show for it (also looking like 1 in 7). Same with that 09/10 Chelsea side, or 13/14 Man City & Liverpool... they all scored 100+ league goals, something Man Utd have NEVER done. Goals by themselves aren't always a reliable indicator.
Who said Ronaldo is a bad player? Im pointing out stat padding happens in the CL as well.
Was there or was there not criticisms of Ronaldo this year where he was accused of failing against big sides and scoring most of his goals v a few lower sides? Did i imagine that?
Why can't fans of other leagues gake criticism on here? It turns petty and the first defence is always to bring up the Premier League as a comparison.
We know our league has fallen a level and there are about a thousand posts and threads about it on here. Mention the defects of a foreign league and it turns into petty nonsense.
Today was a disgrace tbh. My theory is that they were 2-0 down so soon that they gave up. Why risk cards and injury in a game that is gone when goal difference doesnt matter? Save themselves for next week cor a game that matters (as they should imo)
Well, yeah, it's Espanyol away at the Bernabéu... all kidding aside, they were missing like 6 first-teamers (2 due to injury, incl. their top scorer Caicedo, 2 due to suspension and another 2 who are RM loanees, Burgui and the outstanding Asensio, and thus not allowed to play).
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Overall, when defence is taken into account, it probably was, but that United team was not as good going forward as this Madrid team. This is backed up by the number of goal both teams scored in the CL, the only competition that both teams played in, which makes for an easier comparison.
United goals in the CL
06/07 23
07/08 20
08/09 18
Madrid goals in the CL
10/11 25
11/12 35
12/13 26
13/14 41
14/15 24
Going forward, Madrid over the years have had much more fire-power than that United team did. That should explain why this Madrid team hammers more teams than that United team, and also, why Ronaldo scores much more goals. It is not just in their domestic league that they scored more goals than that United team, but in the CL too. They have been a better team going forward.
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Problem is when people use Espanyol, who are 2 points above relegation to bash the league. As you yourself mentioned Real Madrid have not had that best of records against the big teams. If memory serves me right they have scored 3 or more goals only twice against a team in the top half of table(top 10). I think Celta Vigo and Depor. It is only natural teams in the bottom of table are not as good as those above. There is no padding going on here. They would likely hammer any team in the bottom of any league.
It is? Not sure if I agree.
I would say it was.
Longest undefeated reign in the Champions League, I think. Two consecutive finals.
But weren't top players more spread out over the clubs around 2008? This is an era where 3 clubs are absolutely loaded with worldclass talent and therefore they reach the CL semi's every year. I think this Real Madrid would be just as good in that CL-era because of the fact they are so stocked with worldclass players.
ok manAtletico have beaten Real Madrid 4-0 last year.
The envy is strong in this one.
The greatest club side in the world were in their prime then and couldnt beat our records. Its not as if this was 20 years ago now lol.
Sadly for them they had to made do with all those CL wins..