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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?


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Oh, from the articles I remember reading, I always thought Monaco's ambitions were purely financial.
I guess most people (like myself) would have obviously judged his performances at Monaco by his numbers, which is why I assumed he continued on from his performances at Atletico.
I know that it's not a good indicator but when Whoscored give you 6.93 and 6.59 grades, you have not been good.
 

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It would be stupid to just focus on achieving short-term success and not think about the future. Rashford is the future of this club so he must be given plenty of game time so he can continue to develop.
Rashford might be the future. Or he might not. There's no guarantee of becoming a great player. He has merely had a good start. And there's enough games for him to get game time as second choice.
 

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The only thing similar about this and the Falcao move is the lack of transfer fee. That's it.
 

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Rashford might be the future. Or he might not. There's no guarantee of becoming a great player. He has merely had a good start. And there's enough games for him to get game time as second choice.
Agreed. Putting too much weight on Rashford's shoulder will do him no good. He should be a rotation player next season.
 

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DONE DONE DONE!!!!!:devil:
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IBRA TO ANNOUNCE ON TUESDAY?

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is reportedly set to announce where he will play his football next season on Tuesday.

Sky sources understand the Sweden striker will join Manchester United on a one-year contract.

And speaking to Swedish TV after Sweden’s 3-0 victory over Wales on Sunday, Ibrahimovic said: “There will be a big announcement on June 7. It will be this summer’s big bomb.”

Watch this space.
 

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I assume he will have a monstrous salary that'll make up for the lack of a transfer fee. His agent is Mino Raiola, if the salary demands aren't completely ludicrous, something is wrong with the guy.
Just a bit:
During his spell at Barcelona, Ibrahimović had a falling-out with coach Pep Guardiola, culminating in a dressing room incident in which Ibrahimović threw a training-kit box across the room and screamed insults at Guardiola. Guardiola eventually refused to speak to Ibrahimović and loaned him out to Milan.[191] Barcelona vice president Carles Vilarrubi further revealed that Ibrahimović had threatened to publicly beat up Guardiola if he was not released to Milan.[192]
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You know nothing?
About what it means that he burst out laughing? No.

Zlatan loves to troll the press and is difficult to read, but the rumors about United are everywhere so it would seem that he is on his way.
 

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Rashford will be a marked boy next season. Second seasons are always difficult with opposition managers and players knowing his strengths and weaknesses. He's no way ready to be a full-time striker at a club like United.

Keep expectations in check.
 
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Although not yet official, seeing Zlatan strut his stuff around Old Trafford is what the Theatre of Dreams was made for. Make no mistake about it we are going to be box office this season, and hated by every rival fan again. Just how it should be.
 

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I don't think anyone who isn't for signing Ibra would be happy with not signing striker this summer. That would be mental.

It's merely the idea that with the Ibra signing, it means that he will be the only striker coming in this summer.
 

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Look you're obviously a big fan and though I disagree some of your points are well made.

Pretending though that top players haven't come to the EPL and initially struggled is just silly. It's you trying to prove a point for the sake of it. Di Maria did clearly struggle with the Premiership, as did Ozil in his first season. Going further back the list is long and distinguished.
Yeah, I've been thinking of changing my sig actually.. :D

I've never argued that people haven't struggled, I'm arguing that the reason for their struggles is not that the PL is "too good" for them.
Di Maria was easily in the top 3 in the PL the first month or two, then he was injured, then there was the break in and his family didn't want to stay in England, then LVG decided to play him in 11 different positions and then he just sort of gave up. So I very much disagree that it was the quality of the league that he struggled with.

Özil did very well for Real and then struggled as you say initially in the PL, then now this season he flourished. If it was the quality of the PL that made him struggle at first then simple logic would tell us that he would always struggle with it, unless he became a much, much better player during his time at Arsenal. Which I don't think is the case.

Every player needs an acclimation period, whether you move to La Liga, PL or wherever you go. How long that period is varies of course from player to player. New team, new league, new country, new food etcetcetc it all comes into play.
I just don't think that the quality of the PL is that much better than the Bundesliga or La Liga, at least not so much better that top class players will struggle to play at their level when they get there.
 

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Can't remember the Caf-banned/unbanned status on Tancredi Palmeri but he has is saying the deal is done, Zlatan is signed. Wasn't sure if his tweets had been posted yet or not but go to his Twitter page if you want to check them out.
 

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All the dramas with his signing on caf.

Would be a bit funny if he does not sign for us now...
 

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Yeah, I've been thinking of changing my sig actually.. :D

I've never argued that people haven't struggled, I'm arguing that the reason for their struggles is not that the PL is "too good" for them.
Di Maria was easily in the top 3 in the PL the first month or two, then he was injured, then there was the break in and his family didn't want to stay in England, then LVG decided to play him in 11 different positions and then he just sort of gave up. So I very much disagree that it was the quality of the league that he struggled with.

Özil did very well for Real and then struggled as you say initially in the PL, then now this season he flourished. If it was the quality of the PL that made him struggle at first then simple logic would tell us that he would always struggle with it, unless he became a much, much better player during his time at Arsenal. Which I don't think is the case.

Every player needs an acclimation period, whether you move to La Liga, PL or wherever you go. How long that period is varies of course from player to player. New team, new league, new country, new food etcetcetc it all comes into play.
I just don't think that the quality of the PL is that much better than the Bundesliga or La Liga, at least not so much better that top class players will struggle to play at their level when they get there.
Agree it's not the quality that's the issue. It's that you get less time on the ball. Less time to make your mind up. That's it really but it's kind of crucial. You don't have to take my word for it, lots of these players have said it themselves.

Veron was THE classic case of this.

It'll be interesting to see with Ibra. He won't have an issue with quality but at the end of his career he's stepping into football that's quicker than anything he's tried before. He'll have to do everything a second or two quicker.
 

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Agree it's not the quality that's the issue. It's that you get less time on the ball. Less time to make your mind up. That's it really but it's kind of crucial. You don't have to take my word for it, lots of these players have said it themselves.

Veron was THE classic case of this.

It'll be interesting to see with Ibra. He won't have an issue with quality but at the end of his career he's stepping into football that's quicker than anything he's tried before. He'll have to do everything a second or two quicker.
I literally stopped expecting or judging players coming from other leagues to play in EPL. It is almost impossible to tell in first season. EPL is a bit strange league in that sense.

Problem is though the guy will have only one season here to show more or less. Hopefully, he will do good here for the sake of the club if he comes.
 

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Imagine the meltdown if he announces Bayern on Tuesday. Would be so disappointed...
 

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All the dramas with his signing on caf.

Would be a bit funny if he does not sign for us now...
The properly funny part would be all the Liverpool and City supporters suddenly proclaiming him to be world class and laughing at us for missing out on him.
 

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Not for the United fans it wont.
I am indifferent to it.

I dont think he is a shit player. Even if we sign him, hopefully we look into other targets as well for long term. So if we don't get him, we will get others. It won't make much of different to me since he would be a short term fix EVEN IF he performs for us.
 

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I am indifferent to it.

I dont think he is a shit player. Even if we sign him, hopefully we look into other targets as well for long term. So if we don't get him, we will get others. It won't make much of different to me since he would be a short term fix EVEN IF he performs for us.
Someone made the point to me, its not just on the pitch where this guys effect will be felt and if he can help the dressing room and training ground, Cantona esque. That surely has to be a good thing and the strikers will/should learn a lot from him. SO for this i say he'll be good. We have lost our swagger and he has the ego to help carry us back somewhat
 

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That's probably why he finds all this so funny -- the press has us dead set on him signing for us, when in reality, only he knows that he's signing for Bayern. He's trolling the world, and loves it.
 

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That's probably why he finds all this so funny -- the press has us dead set on him signing for us, when in reality, only he knows that he's signing for Bayern. He's trolling the world, and loves it.
It would be very much like us to be tagged with a player for so long and not sign him in the end.
It would be very much like Bayern to pull this transfer out of nowhere.
And it would be very much like Zlatan to be laughing his head off and trolling everyone over the entire saga.

This is scary. :nervous:
 

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Rashford might be the future. Or he might not. There's no guarantee of becoming a great player. He has merely had a good start. And there's enough games for him to get game time as second choice.
True but I am certain that he will become a great player as he is an exceptional talent and he has a fantastic attitude and work ethic.
 

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Someone made the point to me, its not just on the pitch where this guys effect will be felt and if he can help the dressing room and training ground, Cantona esque. That surely has to be a good thing and the strikers will/should learn a lot from him. SO for this i say he'll be good. We have lost our swagger and he has the ego to help carry us back somewhat
Why do people assume that he will have Cantona esque influence?! Based on what? Because he can act like a cnut sometimes in media? Have you heard about that kind of influence of his happen in any of his oh so many clubs before? he is 35 ffs. What is his history and reputation? None of them actually says anything about any kind of influence over young players let alone Cantona's kind of influence.

It is freaking odd to me that people seem to pull that thing out of their ass as soon as they think he is going to sign for us. It is like justifying their inner muppet singing with that shit because they know the guy is coming to the end with his career. So gotta make some shit up.

Speaking all of it, it would be fantastic IF he has that influence at our club. Well if he signs for us, of course.
 
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