Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms

[EyeInTheSky]

I think there may be some hindsight bias towards Lukaku now. Would have needed to do it before these tweets I think.

yeah but he was never in the mix until now so we can see if people are happy with this potential move or pissed that we did not get Morata

 

[kouroux]

I dont know if I phrased my post badly but what youre saying is basically what I meant. Or I am misunderstanding what you are saying.

I would have been happy signing Morata for a reasonable fee, but wouldnt have liked caving in to Madrid's ridiculous demands out of desperation.

As you said, we look like a club that can be fleeced, this should help at least start to change that perception.

So yeah, Im delighted with how things look to be panning out.

I understood what you said and meant, I just don't understand how you are happy about it is all, I totally respect the stance though. Personally, "happy" would only be reserved to Morata's arrival and not any other scenario.

 

[DWelbz19]

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It's the hope that kills you, mate.

 

[Miscemayl]

touche

Was doing my head in...

Those players were complete success.. Not qualified success.

 

[Akshay]

Why won't he be the focal point for us? Going by last years system he will be the lone striker. It can also be argued he will get much better service with us and more chances.

He will be the focal point, but our attack is never going to be as centered on one player as Everton's was. He's going to get less space to play in as well, given how defensive many PL bottom feeders are versus United. I'm just saying he's a downgrade on Zlatan last year. Might score more in the league but will contribute less overall.

 

[rocks13]

I wonder how the Jose haters will spin this one.

Supposedly he left Chelsea because of Jose.

Which the Jose lovers spun as a great decision because apparently Lukaku isn't good enough? Wonder how they'll spin that?

 

[Adebesi]

Pros to this signing:

• Scored shedloads in the premier league in an Everton team that doesn't create much.
• Strong, Fast.
• Flat track bully (both a pro and con) Seems to score alot vs the lesser teams but goes missing against the big teams (con). This might have been down to the way Everton were setup vs the top 5 but hopefully he'll do better here.
• Young, if we keep him for long enough and develop him he could become world class
• Should get us a minimum of 20 goals a season.
• Jose knows his game.
• 75mil if correct, is a steal in this market. Even with the inclusion of Rooney.

Cons:

• Has the first touch of a dyslexic goat. His first touch is almost always a pass... to himself.
• Isn't very clynical, pretty much the same as Zlatan in that regard.

• Tends to be pretty stupid in his positioning when his team don't have the ball. I watched a few Everton games against the big boys last season and Baines and Williams spent half the game shouting at him because he was stood in the wrong place or just wandering around doing feck all.

I'm actually just relieved we've signed someone who will make us better and that we don't have to worry about settling into the premierleague, should hit the ground running. He's not world class, but he might become it. Overall i'm very please with this signing.

Why would a goat need to be good at spelling to score goals?

 

[fellaini's barber]

Sorry, this doesn't wash with me.

I hope we buy the player best suited to our football, and success comes from there. Buying with the mindset of 'make everyone else weaker' hardly ever came out well. You focus on yourself, not others.

Anyway, to save myself from others misintepreting what I meant, a qualified success in my eye is someone who gave 5+ years of stellar football to the club, being an unquestioned name on the team sheet. I don't see Lukaku being that man.

Can you enlighten us on what 'our' of football seeing as football is? And your definition of qualified success is nonsense

 

[iHicksy]

no. no it isnt.

I like the dyslexic goat bit tho

Of course it is, he's 24 and one of the top strikers in the league. Just wait until next summer when 75mil is the new 35mil and potentially 6 years of service for this price will be excellent value.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Why would a goat need to be good at spelling to score goals?

It helped Demba BAAAA

.... sorry.

 

[Wade3]

Imagine that us leaking a deal is done for Lukaku is only a smoke-screen to push Real to agree on a deal for Morata.

 

[Kidders]

I'd be surprised if he moved then unless Atletico were out of the CL and we were still in it. This possible news might put Costa to Atletico in doubt for the time being as well.

I was thinking Morata to Chelsea, Costa stays at Chelsea for now but doesn't get CL cup-tied and moves to Athletico in January and Griezman comes to us, Maybe cup-tied but in time to win us the Prem

 

[Adebesi]

I understood what you said and meant, I just don't understand how you are happy about it is all, I totally respect the stance though. Personally, "happy" would only be reserved to Morata's arrival and not any other scenario.

Ah so youre not happy about Lukaku?

Im happy because we got our business done under the radar, we got a decent price in the context of this market, and because the guy scores goals.

If that makes me small time I can live with it.

 

[Precaution]

What's the betting this goes tits up and Chelsea swoop in right under us and we'll be left with a more broken Rooney than before?

 

[Enigma_87]

It's a bit odd to compare Morata in Juve to Lukaku this season? If you want to base it on goal-scoring stats alone, Morata has averaged more goals/90 mins than Lukaku in every of the last four seasons except for 2015-16. I think people think Lukaku is a better goal-scorer simply because he's in the PL and they've seen more of him.

Lukaku last season to Morata last season, not this season.

Morata played for two of the best teams of the planet with the best creativity outlets behind him. Lukaku has played at Everton as a lone forward. Given their career so far I don't think it's arguable who is the better pure goalscorer. Better all rounder it's Morata of course, but in terms of scoring goals Lukaku has scored 3 times more goals at top level than Morata playing for crap teams. He also scored 11 in 14 games for Belguim last year alone.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Leaving aside for a moment whether your standards of judging success are reasonable, I think you've got "qualified" and "unqualified" the wrong way around. Something is a qualified success if it is successful on the balance of all factors, but there are significant drawbacks; an unqualified success is something you have no reservations about calling success.

Yes. That is what I meant. Tbf though enough have quoted my posts which makes editing them a bit redundant at this point. Most got what I meant by it though.

I'm happy to be proven wrong btw, but yet to be at this point. Last summer I said something to the same effect in the Micky thread which earned me a tagline. Proven right.

 

[Minimalist]

What's the betting this goes tits up and Chelsea swoop in right under us and we'll be left with a more broken Rooney than before?

More angry and confused?

 

[Niall]

Quite a smart system actually, it had a pop up saying that pre-existing members can login but they kicked out to nosey outsiders to prioritise bandwidth. Have never seen that before on a forum

Ah, makes sense. I was wondering why it was member only.

 

[GimmeAKitKat]

Would love this transfer to be honest.

Beast of a guy and can finish with feet or head, terrible first touch at times but we've carried Rooney's touch for the last 4 years without many people saying much, so why not.

Either way, Sure Mou knows the limitations he has and will look to exploit his massive advantages instead.

 

[Tiber]

Of course it is, he's 24 and one of the top strikers in the league. Just wait until next summer when 75mil is the new 35mil and potentially 6 years of service for this price will be excellent value.

Lukaku is still a long way from proving that he is world class striker. £75m is huge money for him even in this market

 

[devilish]

Well i think your wish got real, but at the expense of Morata.

Well Morata had been consistently good for the past few years both at Real and Juventus. Martial gave us few months of decent football same as Januzaj. Let them do the talk on the pitch.

 

[togg]

meh.....I'm coming back later.....obviously not done deal yet.....

 

[sdb4884]

Probably paying 35 million too much in reality but that's the market for you today.

Would rather Morata to be honest who has actually scored goals in the Champions League but given our lack of transfer activity it's a relief.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Imagine that us leaking a deal is done for Lukaku is only a smoke-screen to push Real to agree on a deal for Morata.

Imagine if this is a smoke-screen to get Real to negotiate down on Morata, which itself is only a smokescreen to get Everton to drop the price by £10m, which in reality is just a smoke screen to buy Troy Deeney.

 

[Adebesi]

What's the betting this goes tits up and Chelsea swoop in right under us and we'll be left with a more broken Rooney than before?

I would definitely be a lot more worried about that if the Beeb hadnt reported on it. Even then, they arent reporting Lukaku has agreed terms so there is still scope for this to go south - but his relationship with Pogba does make me pretty confident. Id be pretty happy to put money on this happening.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Apparently Chelsea have matched the bid.

Is Morata still on? If not, is Darren Bent still playing?

 

[Carolina Red]

I remember I checked his stats a few months ago of his conversion rate based on number of shots and goals, he was the 2nd best in PL (1st was Kane). And was better than the other strikers in La Liga and Bundes Liga too.

Isn't very clynical, pretty much the same as Zlatan in that regard.

If the above is true, then what does "clinical" mean?

 

[izec]

Yes get in you muppets

 

[Jazz]

Fellow reds in my office completely divided!
Funny hearing the back and forth

 

[Minimalist]

Imagine if this is a smoke-screen to get Real to negotiate down on Morata, which itself is only a smokescreen to get Everton to drop the price by £10m, which in reality is just a smoke screen to buy Troy Deeney.

At least he'll only cost £40m. The bean counters will be delighted.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Wait a minute.

So is this not agreed then?

How has an error like that been made?

 

[Akshay]

Lukaku last season to Morata last season, not this season.

Morata played for two of the best teams of the planet with the best creativity outlets behind him. Lukaku has played at Everton as a lone forward. Given their career so far I don't think it's arguable who is the better pure goalscorer. Better all rounder it's Morata of course, but in terms of scoring goals Lukaku has scored 3 times more goals at top level than Morata playing for crap teams. He also scored 11 in 14 games for Belguim last year alone.

I guess it depends if you see the playing for a weaker team as a hindrance or as a help. I'm more leery of strikers coming from weaker teams, of whether they can adjust to the higher standard and less space they have to work with. Lukaku also scores less goals per shot than Morata, if that has any bearing on the chances argument.

Anyway, looks like we've made our choice now, so I hope it turns out for the best. Like you said we need more upgrades in attack to make this work though.

 

[Jazz]

Wouldn't put past Jose to pursue Lukaku to spite Chelsea and Conte mainly.

Hope not, you don't 'spite' anyone by spending £75M of other people's money.,,

 

[VP89]

Why would a goat need to be good at spelling to score goals?

 

[DOTA]

Would love this transfer to be honest.

Beast of a guy and can finish with feet or head, terrible first touch at times but we've carried Rooney's touch for the last 4 years without many people saying much, so why not.

Either way, Sure Mou knows the limitations he has and will look to exploit his massive advantages instead.

Far longer. Even in his best seasons Rooney would regularly have runs of games where his first touch had completely gone.

 

[CG1010]

Apparently Chelsea have matched the bid.

Is Morata still on? If not, is Darren Bent still playing?

I hope we get someone...Can't go into the season with Rashy

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Can you enlighten us on what 'our' of football seeing as football is? And your definition of qualified success is nonsense

Technically sound, ambidextrous or at least comfortable using his weak leg, fast, intelligent forward that is good at both holding up the ball or facilitating others (the wing forwards or midfielders) to score while capable of scoring 30 goals a season himself.

Lukaku has the positional awareness and touch of a deer in headlight. If you think Zlatan was bad at times last season, you aint seen nothing yet.

 

[Snowjoe]

I hope you stub your toe.

I've got you fam.

 

[Suv666]

Imagine that us leaking a deal is done for Lukaku is only a smoke-screen to push Real to agree on a deal for Morata.

This isnt fecking Death Note

 

[prtk0811]

Probably paying 35 million too much in reality but that's the market for you today.

Would rather Morata to be honest who has actually scored goals in the Champions League but given our lack of transfer activity it's a relief.

Could be rooney going the other way too.