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I can't laugh much with the level of PMs in my country. But where the feck do you find yours? Johnson, Truss and Sunak... good lord.
 

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I can't laugh much with the level of PMs in my country. But where the feck do you find yours? Johnson, Truss and Sunak... good lord.
You know that politics in this country have gone to shit when you can look back at David Cameron and think "he was more ministerial than the folk who came after him", and he was a bullying prick of a man.
 

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I think that's true as far as it goes but you have to add that Starmer has miscalculated and handled it badly. As has the speaker.
There is a point of view that he handled it perfectly. If , Starmer did influence Hoyle and that headed off a clash with a number of his back benchers... and then with the Speaker talking the heat, then that's a master-stroke, or he's just a lucky bas****, either way bodes well for a PM in waiting.
 

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There is a point of view that he handled it perfectly. If , Starmer did influence Hoyle and that headed off a clash with a number of his back benchers... and then with the Speaker talking the heat, then that's a master-stroke, or he's just a lucky bas****, either way bodes well for a PM in waiting.
Absolutely. My first thought at looking at the bare faced racism of 'Islamists are controlling Parliament' this morning was what a genius Starmer was for launching that wrecking ball at the first domino.
 

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Absolutely. My first thought at looking at the bare faced racism of 'Islamists are controlling Parliament' this morning was what a genius Starmer was for launching that wrecking ball at the first domino.
Is he becoming (or has he always been)... 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'... our Sir Keir? ;)
 

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Is he becoming (or has he always been)... 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'... our Sir Keir ;)
He's simply a desperate man happy to throw as many people and communities under the bus as necessary to save himself from looking like he endorsed Israel dishing out collective punishment. He'll be delighted that it turns out the real people to blame for the farce in the Commons this week are those pesky Muslims again.
 

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He'll be delighted that it turns out the real people to blame for the farce in the Commons this week are those pesky Muslims again.
In the GE it won't do a lot of his candidates much good in some seats; unless he's counting on swinging a few disillusioned Tories (with bias) going his way in seats that would benefit... whats lost on the roundabouts is gained on the swings*
Definitely a wolf our Keir

(* for @Pexbo ... no quotation marks ;))
 

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In the GE it won't do a lot of his candidates much good in some seats; unless he's counting on swinging a few disillusioned Tories (with bias) going his way in seats that would benefit... whats lost on the roundabouts is gained on the swings*
Definitely a wolf our Keir

(* for @Pexbo ... no quotation marks ;))
Managed to get your classic italics in though. :D
 

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The absolute state of her. The fact that she's even parading herself about again after so publicly shitting herself is ridiculous in itself.

There is zero shame or accountability anymore. You can be consistently wrong and made to look like an idiot and you will just keep getting work.
 

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As soon as she turned up at that Ultra Tory conference thing it was clear as day she was going to persue a career as a right-wing shill. You don't need any skill or talent, just recognition and social media followers. As long as you repeat whatever the hive is thinking. Easiest gig a morally corrupt person can get.
 

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Bunch of silly nonsense, arguing away as if anybody in the wider world gives a shit what the UK government thinks about Israel.

Political points scoring gone nasty, and for some reason some members of the public think it matters.
 

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James O'Brien seems to have started to embrace the "footballification" of politics that he used to be so dead against. If the shoe was on the other foot and Sunak or Johnson pulled what Starmer did during that debacle there is no way his analysis would be in any way similar.
 

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James O'Brien seems to have started to embrace the "footballification" of politics that he used to be so dead against. If the shoe was on the other foot and Sunak or Johnson pulled what Starmer did during that debacle there is no way his analysis would be in any way similar.
To James, hypocrisy is always something that happens to other people.
 

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You know that politics in this country have gone to shit when you can look back at David Cameron and think "he was more ministerial than the folk who came after him", and he was a bullying prick of a man.
And feck pigs
 

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I find that if the Speaker changed procedure because someone suggested that MP's of whatever persuasion would be at risk of intimidation or violence then he should resign immediately and whoever persuaded him to do it, if that was the case, then they should resign too.

This sets a dangerous precedent if MP's or the Speaker or Parliament can be influenced in this way.

The system is dead.
 

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I find that if the Speaker changed procedure because someone suggested that MP's of whatever persuasion would be at risk of intimidation or violence then he should resign immediately and whoever persuaded him to do it, if that was the case, then they should resign too.

This sets a dangerous precedent if MP's or the Speaker or Parliament can be influenced in this way.

The system is dead.
Surprised he's not gone yet tbh.
 

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I find that if the Speaker changed procedure because someone suggested that MP's of whatever persuasion would be at risk of intimidation or violence then he should resign immediately and whoever persuaded him to do it, if that was the case, then they should resign too.

This sets a dangerous precedent if MP's or the Speaker or Parliament can be influenced in this way.

The system is dead.
Well. I am well sure that this kind of intimidation at any level is the bread and butter in politics. That is why we are ending with the worse kind that are blackmailed left and right and/or is a sell out. 90 % of all the MP in all parliaments in the world are like this to a certain degree
 

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I find that if the Speaker changed procedure because someone suggested that MP's of whatever persuasion would be at risk of intimidation or violence then he should resign immediately and whoever persuaded him to do it, if that was the case, then they should resign too.

This sets a dangerous precedent if MP's or the Speaker or Parliament can be influenced in this way.

The system is dead.
It was the lamest excuse he could have given. Basically stating outside intimidation/threats work. Probably put MPs at more risk after that statement.

The slightest fear of violence will change policy. Fire bombs away then!
 

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Tory MP Lee Anderson claims ‘Islamists’ have got control of Sadiq Khan

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...aims-islamists-have-got-control-of-sadiq-khan

fecking hell... BBC completely silent on this news, to nobody's surprise.
GB news should be forced into a disclaimer of being a Conservative Political Party entity. It should be forced to be associated with the party and not some kind of independent right wing video platform. This is a news outlet created for one political party to use and promote whilst they are in government. It's filled with serving MP's, so it's essentially government-media.
 

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Targeted a lot less than Corbyn which basically nukes his entire opposition and electoral chances.

Principles? Pfft they're what you hold when you have feck all influence and power.

He needs to get elected first.

Every, I swear to god, everything else comes after.
You'll get the government your deserve worth this approach. Mark my words.
 

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GB news should be forced into a disclaimer of being a Conservative Political Party entity. It should be forced to be associated with the party and not some kind of independent right wing video platform. This is a news outlet created for one political party to use and promote whilst they are in government. It's filled with serving MP's, so it's essentially government-media.
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