He seemed to be on the right track with "just writing off debt doesn't solve the problem". That's coherent. But to them continually clarify that the debts should be repaid is just stupid.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Spot on.
Labour is still going to have to overturn a big Tory Majority.
And that means winning back those so called Red Wall seats which turned against Labour last time.
And it is also going to have to win traditional Tory seats.
And Starmer is very well aware that Labour has to appeal to voters across the whole spectrum.
As you rightly say... it is politics. Plain and simple.
Yes, you are 100% correct, it might be added that no other party with a chance of winning power at the next GE will offer the left anything even close to what they want..except Labour.
Electing a national government is not a competitive sport, coming in second or third has no value, the winner takes it all and the truth is we stay with a FPTP system because the vast majority of the British electorate prefer that... or, they don't give toss!
Everybody needs a strong Labour majority government to bring in change... "even those who will ultimately benefit from change, initially reject it" (quote)... but cannot remember who!!
Well said.
Yes, you are 100% correct, it might be added that no other party with a chance of winning power at the next GE will offer the left anything even close to what they want..except Labour.
Electing a national government is not a competitive sport, coming in second or third has no value, the winner takes it all and the truth is we stay with a FPTP system because the vast majority of the British electorate prefer that... or, they don't give toss!
Everybody needs a strong Labour majority government to bring in change... "even those who will ultimately benefit from change, initially reject it" (quote)... but cannot remember who!!
Do we really want a repeat of the last election outcome.
I do wonder sometimes.
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fecking christ, they even speak to each other like this.
"Our whip's fecked up? HOW COULD LABOUR DO THIS?"
fecking christ, they even speak to each other like this.
"Our whip's fecked up? HOW COULD LABOUR DO THIS?"
Unbelievable
Usually these WhatsApp leaks look quite intentional hence why they include such odd messaging. Not sure exactly who this benefits though and I also like they put 'will' and not would.fecking christ, they even speak to each other like this.
"Our whip's fecked up? HOW COULD LABOUR DO THIS?"
A consequence of the two party duopoly. This nutjob belongs with other nutters like Habib, Tice and Farage, rather than *spits* more 'reasonable' centre right Tories.
Can't wait, whenever it may be, until I no longer have to see his face.
Ah yes those famous election winners Farage, Habib and Tice.
The Conservative party is almost in it's final form.
The Conservative party is almost in it's final form.
Another defection this week apparently. Rumours that it could be Theresa May
I've also read rumours it might not be a traditional defection but that they'll have John Major endorse Starmer and Labour on Thursday.Another defection this week apparently. Rumours that it could be Theresa May
Having an ex Tory PM come out and say vote Labour at the next election would be really something.
Another defection this week apparently. Rumours that it could be Theresa May
Also do they really save one another’s names with ”MP” at the end?!
Most people want perpetual opposition because leadership and responsibility is hard. Likewise it's easier to snipe and critique than do.
Yes, you are 100% correct, it might be added that no other party with a chance of winning power at the next GE will offer the left anything even close to what they want..except Labour.
Electing a national government is not a competitive sport, coming in second or third has no value, the winner takes it all and the truth is we stay with a FPTP system because the vast majority of the British electorate prefer that... or, they don't give toss!
Everybody needs a strong Labour majority government to bring in change... "even those who will ultimately benefit from change, initially reject it" (quote)... but cannot remember who!!
They're egotistical maniacs, of course they do.
My personal favourite is when some 50 year old back bencher sexting messages get leaked and it's always "daddy has to go run the country"
I don't think something like that has happened in modern times.
Yes, a great deal of truth (and sense) in what you say... "sniping from behind cover" as my boss used to say
A very serious political system in the UK
That would be hilarious.A very serious political system in the UK
Yes, it's a difficult situation, but I fear we were taught a valuable lesson last time (whether we take notice is another matter), " events happen" as MacMillan observed.....if it had not been for Covid, what would an unbridled 85+ majority Tory government have done?
If they had not had to contend with a pandemic I sometimes wonder just what would have happened?
However, an unbridled majority of the same size would definitely allow Labour to move the dial for most of the population, especially if Starmer wants to appeal across the board and at the same time run a 'tight ship' onboard the Labour Party.
Everything to play for, but size of majority is crucial!
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They should make Therese Coffey drink it.
Millions of litres of raw sewage illegally pumped into Windermere
Millions of litres of raw sewage illegally pumped into Windermere
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/windermere-raw-sewage-illegally-pumped-clean-it-up-l6wmqrzqc
It’d be an improvement on her usual diet.
Yes indeed.
Personally I treat the opinion polls with a big pinch of salt.
Yes I believe Labour will win. But I doubt it will be more than just a small working majority.
The longer Sunak waits, the bigger the risk is to Labour. Especially with slightly improving economic conditions.
Still everything to play for.
God, I hate Singapore's heavily chlorinated water, but I'd take that any day over the UK's turd filled third world water quality.
Urgent ‘don’t drink water’ warning in town as hundreds suddenly fall sick with ‘worst illness ever’
Urgent ‘don’t drink water’ warning in town as hundreds suddenly fall sick with ‘worst illness ever’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/27925200/cryptosporidium-outbreak-brixham-devon-water-illness/
I suspect everybody (at least in our age group) do. Polls may give an indication of the way the wind is blowing, but its always a mistake to try to use it as a measure.
As you say Starmer has a large majority to overcome and to do the things he needs to do, will, as I've speculated elsewhere, need to have very large swings at least in the constituencies where results do tend to blow with the wind. He will then need to establish a timetable for real change that will cover at least two possibly three terms. Its a massive task and he is right to canvass support wherever he can, across the board,
There are massive problems both behind him i.e.fall out and costs (debts) from Covid and in front of him, the ever deepening worry of wars continuing in Europe and in the Middle East, neither of which show any sign of abating and if anything show signs of dragging others in. There is of course climate changes, of which many governments are now (effectively) rowing back from (or thinking of doing so) etc.
The big problem will be increases in defence spending, as the threat grows so money and resources will get sucked into this area from everywhere else. The primary duty of a government is to defend its people, therefore as war clouds gather so resources get diverted to move the economy on to a 'war footing' suspect (@Paul the Wolf ) Paul would say after Brexit, its already on that footing now, as it is believed Russia already is at this stage now.
If Starmer does not get his large majority, its even possible (if the worst should follow) that a government of national unity may be on the cards..... the mind boggles!!
I think Labour will win comfortably but not by the margins some polls suggest. It should be totally impossible for the Tories to win with the complete ineptitude of the government and the ministers. But Starmer's been a poor opposition leader as he was when Shadow Brexit Secretary and that covers just about all his political career so far.
The Elphicke saga was a mistake which will come back to bite him at a later stage - in terms of voters he may gain some Brexiters and xenophobes but lose other votes. She will lose the plot by the Autumn (if not sooner).
Every time the government are in trouble they bring up some threats of war. Secure the borders !! by both Tories and Labour. All propaganda. Increasing spending marginally to 2.5% is not exactly a considerable amount.
As I said previously Brexit has only just begun properly this year and will gradually increase its effects over the next five years. During which time Starmer will probably have his first term. if he doesn't get it right in the first term he won't get a second term. The public will easily swing back towards the Tories.
I think the Tory government from top to bottom is appalling but I don't rate Starmer and his mates very highly either although they'd struggle to be worse than the current lot. I was expecting Labour would choose a different type of leader. I think Starmer will wilt.
Labour have started the process of picking an alternative candidate for Islington North.
Lots of interesting stuff in this labour press conference
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Sure, go to the embittered ex-member for impartial analysis.
He is such a melt.
Harsh on @Sweet Square
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Right on Paul, knew I could rely on you.
Increasing spending on defence (0.5%) is all propaganda eh!! Not when you are already billions in debt and public services are on their knees and more and more people are registering as 'unavailable for work'. Never mind that NATO is getting drawn inextricably into a new 'cold war' scenario in East European arena; that the US ( our eternal strategic partner) will not allow its only major ally in the Middle East Israel to fail, especially with Iran calling the shots.
According to you then Paul these things are incidental to the real problem of 'what comes after Brexit'.... really?
I suspect whatever government is in power after the GE, the Brexit 'fallout' will become a side show, especially as the EU is suffering internal machinations on immigration and border issues as well. All the Western World will have to close ranks over the next decade. If Trump wins in US presidential race, then he may well try to force a plan within NATO where the US takes the lead in the Middle East supporting Israel, (whatever it takes) whilst Europe is expected to take the lead in locking horns with Putin and pushing him back over Ukraine.
Meanwhile back to the climate change front, things will be looking decidedly doggy especially as China has already said it will continue to utilise its furnaces to provide its energy, whilst we sit alone, only half filling our kettles and bathing in only 50 cm's of water. Probably being reminded (by Government) how eating carrots help us to see better in the dark (joke of course, only for people in their 70's)
Scary times ahead Paul, if Starmer's not up to it, we shall have to find someone who is... any suggestions?