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The only player currently playing that overachieve his xG over a long period of time is.... Lionel Messi.
Spoken like somebody who doesn't understand xG.
How does most top forwarders score just slightly under their xG makes sense?
Err... it doesn’t work like that. It’s not an average of all the chances all forwards receive, each has an xG of their own from the chances they receive, so if your xG is 35 and you bang in 30 goals, you are a top forward, whereas a random guy playing in Cyprus PL may have an xG of 6 but bang in 9, and still he would still be a journeyman.
XG is the average percentage that a chance is finished. XG has proven that shooting "above xG" doesn't make you a good player, but accumulating a high amount of xG is what makes you a great player. You can underperform xG and be the best striker in the world, and you can overperform xG more than anyone and be an entirely mediocre player. Over or underperforming xG doesn't make you a good player. Accumulating high xG is what makes you a good player.
I understand what you're saying meaning that producing a higher xG even when you under perform it will get you better numbers.
That's not the case. The best strikers may or may not over/underperform xG. There's no correlation. They get loads of goals because they get themselves in great chances, time and time again. It's their movement, the touch, their ability to turn half chances into great chances through their own work, and they get enough of those over time that gets them the goals. It's not a case of "they score every chance they get". Because that's not true for anyone.
Mbappe and Haaland (I don't count a game or two being off as not performing consistently since CR7 and Messi have had the odd poor games here and there as well in their careers).
let’s keep let’s keep personal comments out of it.
LvG loved Martial and played him as a no 9.
I'm not sure why you think im not aware AM hasn't ever consistently performed as an elite striker. As for staying injury free, it's not right that united live of wishful thinking without a quality striker. AM is a good backup.LvG loved Martial and played him as a no 9.
Mourinho did not like him so Martial did not play much under him.
Solskjaer loved him and played him alot as a no 9 and he had a couple of great seasons, including 17 goals and 9 assists in Solskjaers first full season. Then injuries came for Martial and Moanaldo arrived, Solskjaers best friend and he hardly played.
Ten Hag loves Martial and that is all that matters,if he stays injury free the rest of the season many haters will have to take a seat.
How many? One - pass from Rashford that he took inside the box and was stopped by defender, and two the header. Have I missed something?
This is a very good point. People would have a big surprise if they have a look at the conversion rate of the elite goalscorers like Lewan or Kane. The ability to get into the position to score is actually much more important than the conversion rate.
The one where he tried to nutmeg the keeper with his left foot. That was probably the best one.
I can't remember this one, maybe I missed it. Anyway, I'm really not worried considering how unfit he looks, his touch is also miles off to what I'm used to see. I am a bit surprised by negative comments from some on here. It's like he's starting season for the 4th time already.
I think he had a crack from just outside the box with his left foot as well, none of them were tap ins though. You're absolutely right though, we looks miles better with him in the team, let's just hope his injurys woes are behind him, for this season at least.
ETH can’t do any more to get him back to full fitness anyway. He’s been very cautious with his return this time. Hence he was subbed off yesterday when we still needed a goal, presumably.
Agreed, it's been a far cry from Ole's approach.
I think there’s a grain of truth in what he says, I remember reading somewhere that the whole team in general runs a lot less under Mourinho than other coaches
That's by design and has nothing to do with laziness. Mourinho's tactics off the ball are based on retreating and defending deep which means that unlike many younger managers his players don't add as much counter press meters. It was the case for Chelsea, United and then Tottenham.
Oh yeah not saying he’s lazy
Pretty much. There are two important metrics for goalscorers xG and conversation rate, one is about the ability of putting yourself in good goalscoring positions and the other is about converting them. Good attackers are above average in either of these metrics or both. And as you said it's rare for player to outperform his xG and a player doing it is unlikely to sustain it, unless you are prime Messi.
What a nonsense.
Isn't Martials career xg 0.38?
No it's not. His finishing is generally good. His problem has always been he likes to play the ball into the goal, he won't take half chances and longer range shots.
After Nkunku pulling out injured I have a sneaky feeling he might not get one.
Didn’t they select someone else already?
Not heard. I know Thuram was called up, but they only selected 25 initially so that wasn’t a replacement.
Yep. He hasn't been good enough in his career. He hasn't been coached well enough in his career as well though. This season it's 1.07. Surely he gets the chance like everyone else to show he can improve under a good coach finally? Because the last time he had a coach who was anywhere remotely close, he was the most promising teenager in world football.
