Hopefully they will decide to nominate one of the many gay members of the Qatari royal family as a senior figurehead of the new Man United corporate team. Would be a nice gesture of friendship to the millions of gay United fans around the world.
Hopefully they will decide to nominate one of the many gay members of the Qatari royal family as a senior figurehead of the new Man United corporate team. Would be a nice gesture of friendship to the millions of gay United fans around the world.
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Or acquire 100% by the sound of it.Hmmm.., unless I've missed any updates regarding the ineos bid it reads like they won't wipe the debt
It's not racist to say black mate.
Oh, the original debt was in quite awful terms. It was taken in 2005 or whatever when the interest rates were relatively high, and it was considered a risky debt so of course it had crazy interest. However, it was refinanced a couple of times (I believe in 2012 and another time later), when the interest rates were essentially close to 0, so I do not think it would have been 5% or whatever the interest rates are now.Weren’t we buying awful payment in kind loans at one point?
They were at over 16% interest so I’d be blown away if they somehow got that down to 1%.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ited-glazers-debt-explained-b2145746.html?amp
I’d imagine with the wealth of the Qatar bid and INEOS, they’ll get better terms even in the current climate than what the Glazers received in 2015.
SameI'd take Ineos and debt ahead of Qatar/SA any day.
That’s not true though.His French side is apparently a complete farce as well. No thanks.
Cool. Most wouldn’t and thankfully Qatar will offer more.I'd take Ineos and debt ahead of Qatar/SA any day.
I'm not sure if that's serious or a jokeHopefully they will decide to nominate one of the many gay members of the Qatari royal family as a senior figurehead of the new Man United corporate team. Would be a nice gesture of friendship to the millions of gay United fans around the world.
could not agree more. Glazers only care about $$$.Does anyone seriously think these manifestos are gonna make a jot of difference to the Raine Group/Glazers evaluation of the bids? I know why these are being pushed out by the Ineos/Qataris but I feel like fan sentiments on who we want as owners will not matter a jot to Raine/Glazers.
I'm convinced all this talk of the divide within the Glazers is horseshit“Majority ownership”, would open the doors the the reluctant Glazer siblings to hold on to their shares. GET feckED.
And without majority ownership. Why would they put any more money into the club for facilities and the squad.Hmmm.., unless I've missed any updates regarding the ineos bid it reads like they won't wipe the debt
Is 5th in the French league after 4 years really that good though?That’s not true though.
Likely on for a third 5th place finish in 4 years, dared to go for a new young manager, dared to bring in a new young really highly rated DOF. Currently the form team in France.
Majority ownership means the club is his, under his control. Doesn’t matter who the minority parties are, as long as the Glazers are gone.Majority ownership is a red flag and we all know he’s taking loans out to secure the club. Feck that.
His French side is apparently a complete farce as well. No thanks.
Anybody wanting this over Qatar must be absolutely mental.
100% serious.I'm not sure if that's serious or a joke
Considering they were doing well before the takeover.Is 5th in the French league after 4 years really that good though?
Oh god geebs, not you as well?!Being British doesn’t pay the bills
I'd rather have someone who actually puts his hands in his pockets then someone who does not. Its not as if Ratcliffe is a genius football wise. Nice is a circus act as wellBecause its still a multi billion euro squad that has a huge amount of talent. It will take a huge investment.
Does every rich owner of a club has to pump money into it and try to turn it into City/PSG?
It aint no farce, it’s Nice.Is 5th in the French league after 4 years really that good though?
No mention of investment in infrastructure or how Ineos would fund thatWhat’s not to love about that?
May as well keep the Glazers then. At least we know funds are made available for transfers with themI'd take Ineos and debt ahead of Qatar/SA any day.
I’ll take Qatar and the 300b thanksMajority ownership means the club is his, under his control. Doesn’t matter who the minority parties are, as long as the Glazers are gone.
I’m not all in on Qatar, I’m just taking the bids as I find them and my opinion is that we’re out of the fat and into the frying pan with JR. No substance, disappointingOh god geebs, not you as well?!
Be all and end all.I’ll take Qatar and the 300b thanks
I believe they “value”the club at £4B, hence they would pay £2.26B for 66.7% of the club.(assuming that’s percentage of the club held by the Glazers).So does this means the Ineos majority (66%) bid of £4B is bigger than the Qatar 100% offer.
Qatar would have to up their offer to £6B to complete the purchase
They finished 8th & 7th the two seasons pre takeover.Considering they were doing well before the takeover.
Should probably just keep the Glazers then if your not bothered about debt etc?I'd take Ineos and debt ahead of Qatar/SA any day.
Mate calm down. I just repeated what others wrote and i am not from Britain so got the city wrong. There is no conspiracy against SJR. But his “British bid for British club” is hilarious for a lot of people who dont have clear preference and have reservations for both bidSo he was born in London now? Great. What other lies can we make up?
Pre world cup bid, hardly anyone knew anything about Qatar. Foreign Direct Investment in Qatar has more than tripled since 2020, and in per capita terms, it is currently 4th in the world for FDI. It has jumped from 10th to 3rd for Middle Eastern and North African countries since 2021.Sports washing, as I understand the term, is describing a PR exercise to change the image of a country in the minds of the population in general, it isn't meant as a description of increasing political influence. I hate to break it to you, but Qatar, Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia already have plenty of influence in the corridors of western governments, they have personal relationships with our leaders and already own or have large stakes in assets in most western countries.
I mention soft power as owning United will further entrench their influence and possibly increase it around the world.
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Mate, no one cares about your quoting anymore, there's nothing we can do about the potential new ownership so I'm going to try to see the positives from here on out. I've never once said I agree with anything that's happening but welcome to the world of Capitalism. It is what it is.Here is SUV on boycotting the Qatar world cup:
Here is SUV when Qatar might buy United.
Here is @crossy1686 deriding people who would accept sportswashing at their club.
Here is @crossy1686 explaining that the new owners might actually be opposed to human rights in their country.
Here is @Telsim worried about the deaths of migrants in the world cup.
May as well keep the Glazers then. At least we know funds are made available for transfers with them
I am bothered about the debt, but the Glazers have been utter shit even ignoring that.Should probably just keep the Glazers then if your not bothered about debt etc?
I hate to break it to you but they still have the the death penalty on the books for acts of male homosexuality for muslims (though it's not used) and 3 years for non-muslims. There's no chance a member of the royal family or anyone of note is coming out as gay.100% serious.