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You mean the City game? That would be kind of harsh given he was injured and had barely kicked a ball.Considering what has happened when Mkhitaryan has made it onto the pitch is not exactly far fetched to think he might not be doing enough to warrant selection.
If he's as amazing as people are suggesting, to the point where Mourinho is some kind of moron for not playing him, he'd have stood out in any cameo opportunity he got.1 bad 45 minutes. The rest has been 20 minute off cameos. I am not sure if a player can be judged after giving him so little time.
Not just the City game, but at no point has he stood out which is why I said it's not far fetched that he's not doing enough - in training or on the pitch.You mean the City game? That would be kind of harsh given he was injured and had barely kicked a ball.
Lingard was subbed at half time for bring rubbish too but he hasn't been dropped completely.
Maybe Mkhi is a bad trainer and negative influence although his past record seems to state the complete opposite, so it's pretty hard to look past the idea that Mourinho doesn't like him and as such why the absolute feck did we buy him?
It's not like Mkhi hasn't got history. Common sense will tell you that this isn't about the manager? Honestly I'm always surprised how we are quick to blame the manager rather than the player....You mean the City game? That would be kind of harsh given he was injured and had barely kicked a ball.
Lingard was subbed at half time for bring rubbish too but he hasn't been dropped completely.
Maybe Mkhi is a bad trainer and negative influence although his past record seems to state the complete opposite, so it's pretty hard to look past the idea that Mourinho doesn't like him and as such why the absolute feck did we buy him?
tbh, that was the same theory which was put forward when Herrera was being dropped/ignored by LvG. He isn't good enough. Should show his worth in 10 minutes. That's not how football works, especially at this level. We bought him for a certain price, pretty sure there was enough work which was done behind the doors to clear the amount/transfer. Only to reach at this point that he is not good enough? Amazing.If he's as amazing as people are suggesting, to the point where Mourinho is some kind of moron for not playing him, he'd have stood out in any cameo opportunity he got.
The most likely explanation is that he's struggling to fit in and taking time to get going. He'll either get there eventually and all will be well, or he'll end up leaving.
He hasn't stood out but I wouldn't say he was bad either, City aside. There's a difference between easing a player into the league like Arsene with Xhaka and what Mourinho is doing here. You don't ease a player in by banishing him from the team after a poor half.Not just the City game, but at no point has he stood out which is why I said it's not far fetched that he's not doing enough - in training or on the pitch.
Either Mourinho decided to buy a player he had no intention of using and didn't like, or the player hasn't lived up to expectations so far. Which seems more likely?
I thought he did pretty well vs Hull.If he's as amazing as people are suggesting, to the point where Mourinho is some kind of moron for not playing him, he'd have stood out in any cameo opportunity he got.
The most likely explanation is that he's struggling to fit in and taking time to get going. He'll either get there eventually and all will be well, or he'll end up leaving.
Who said he's not good enough?tbh, that was the same theory which was put forward when Herrera was being dropped/ignored by LvG. He isn't good enough. Should show his worth in 10 minutes. That's not how football works, especially at this level. We bought him for a certain price, pretty sure there was enough work which was done behind the doors to clear the amount/transfer. Only to reach at this point that he is not good enough? Amazing.
It just makes you wonder why we did not sign mane considering how he has been usedRe: hard work and determination, this is the guy who lived in Shakhtar's training base so that nothing could distract him from football.
He clearly is a confidence player but this looks like a poor man-management by Mou
Then I'm wondering why Mourinho wanted a player like Mkhitaryan in the first place? Everybody knows that he can let himself down when he's not feeling comfortable, he needs to be supported and when that happens he's an amazing threat and a creative force on the field. Dropping him completely, criticizing him in interviews, not letting him play in meaningless Europa League games... There really is nothing that could be worse for a player as fragile as him.It's not like Mkhi hasn't got history. Common sense will tell you that this isn't about the manager? Honestly I'm always surprised how we are quick to blame the manager rather than the player....
A reason that has been debunked by many Dortmund fans on here cause he was always apparently one of their hardest workers in training. Unless he came to Man Utd and decided we were not worthy of him bothering as much anymore?The most obvious reason is that he isnt performing in training. How is this such a constant issue of moaning on here?
At least with Kagawa he had periods of form for us that made people believe and thus moan. So far we've not had anything from Mkhit
And you have the same stories at Donetsk where iirc, he used to live in the training center.A reason that has been debunked by many Dortmund fans on here cause he was always apparently one of their hardest workers in training. Unless he came to Man Utd and decided we were not worthy of him bothering as much anymore?
Going from owning a Ferrari to owning a Bugatti could mess with any man.Could he have been affected by money? We trebled his salary and gave him a hefty signing on fee.
Well, honestly i initially thought Jose was out of line here, but he sees him in training every day, we haven't seen him at all.I think this is genuinely pathetic and really shows the worst side of Mourinho, he signed him so he should at the very least give him a run of 4 or 5 games before dropping him.
It's not like anyone else (except possibly Mata). has been doing anything special on the wings this season.
Sorry what? Whether some Dortmund fans say he performed well in training for them is irrelevant. He's at a new club, under a new manager and new training methods.A reason that has been debunked by many Dortmund fans on here cause he was always apparently one of their hardest workers in training. Unless he came to Man Utd and decided we were not worthy of him bothering as much anymore?
You are literally making assumptions about him in training in order to disprove assumptions others are making.Sorry what? Whether some Dortmund fans say he performed well in training for them is irrelevant. He's at a new club, under a new manager and new training methods.
Not everythings a feckin mystery to be analysed by fans ffs
No, Im drawing an obvious and simple conclusion that if a player isnt routinely selected he's not performing well in training.You are literally making assumptions about him in training in order to disprove assumptions others are making.
Except it's not actually that obvious at all and won't be until we know more. Everything we say is speculation right now, including what you say.No, Im drawing an obvious and simple conclusion that if a player isnt routinely selected he's not performing well in training.
There really isnt any other conclusion to draw that isnt just based on far flung theories.
Yeah agreed. Certainly won't play another prem game for us and will just have the odd Europa / cup cameo here and there before being shipped out in the summer - or even January.Clearly not going to be here long term. People need to emotionally lose any attachment they have to him as he's a cert to go.
Question is why was he brought.. I still think there is something fishy about buying him in the first place.
Funny thing is I never thought he'd be a good fit for our club but having actually seen him play.. he could be such a useful player if used correctly, or even as a 10. He'll be a huge hit at the next club he's at as long as manager has faith in him.Yeah agreed. Certainly won't play another prem game for us and will just have the odd Europa / cup cameo here and there before being shipped out in the summer - or even January.
Only Cuadrado is comparable. Di Maria is a better comparison as they were both supposed to be top players but seem to have a fragile mentality.Mkhitaryan is the new Salah, Cuadrado, De Bruyne and Lukaku.
Mou also thought that De Bruyne wasn't ready yetOnly Cuadrado is comparable. Di Maria is a better comparison as they were both supposed to be top players but seem to have a fragile mentality.
