Am genuinely surprised at that view. I'd put Kroos ahead of him.
Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
We went in for cesc once under moyes, didn't get him, and now Jose wants Pogba. Discussion over.
Lets just stick to Pogba
Lets just stick to Pogba
Planet football.on what planet?
. Glad it's causing you all such amusement.@Rory 7 of course there's players who are currently better than Pogba, but the guy is only 23 and showing a crazy amount of potential. Some even say he's world class already. If you want immediate, elite talent then we could go for the likes of Modric, Rakitic, Iniesta but, besides getting no where near them, we'd not get anywhere near as many years out of them. Verratti would be a good alternative but I honestly think Pogba is more what we need right now.
There's the argument that Pogba's the sort of player to move round all the time with that cnut of an agent, but I think we'll keep him for a few years at least based on how much we're paying for him.
There's the argument that Pogba's the sort of player to move round all the time with that cnut of an agent, but I think we'll keep him for a few years at least based on how much we're paying for him.
DDG was hell bent on leaving last season.Yes because a player has to be 100% committed to us and we need to be their first choice or they're not welcome here. Guess we should get rid of De Gea then too.
Had Jose not come this Summer, DDG would definitely have left us this season. No Galactico class player wanted to join us under LVG. We had 2 such players - 1 left and the other did his best to leave, but Madrid messed up the Fax.
Now that Jose is here, DDG is 100% committed to MUFC.
Before Bale/Ronaldo signed for Madrid, they expressed their desire and love for Madrid.
Has Pogba done this, with regards to MUFC?
If this was a £20M transfer, I wouldn't be fussed if the player was half hearted. But for a World Record, like Bale and Ronaldo before him, I'd expect something to come from Pogba.
I've heard absolutely nothing from Pogba (I want to join MUFC). Not one thing.
And what's more, if he did feck off to Madrid in his prime, we'd make a big profit on him anyway (as long as we keep on top of his contract!).
That said, I'm still not convinced he's not going to Madrid this summer.
I'd agree with that too. Kroos would be my preferred option I think. The question was who is ahead of Pogba today. I honestly think a fit in-form Cesc still is ahead of him. That's doesn't mean I'd sign him of course.
Thanks for the heads-up BUT, why would a doctor, that was mentioned by name, miraculously be writing on Twitter, generating column inches about something that had not been previously planned? Was there not enough exposure about the transfer in today's press for Raiola's liking?
And what happens now::
There will be a medical?
With that Doc?
There will be no medical?
Who cares?
I still stand by the rest of my post … it's not as if I wrote it because of that newspaper report today!
Fair enough, looking back that was indeed the question!
He never said that at all. He said Pogba's a Juve player and we must respect Juve so he can't say anything anymore on the player.Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line
Pogba hasn't said anything - about anyone. I prefer that personally then the I'm staying..or I'm a slave bullshit. It's not what people say for show. It's what people say behind the scenes that matters. Not everyone is the same. You cannot expect him to come out and say what you want. If it fell through, he'd probably spend a season getting abused by a section who wouldn't forgive him.
I agree. Fergie sought out players who ticked precisely those "desire" and "commitment" boxes as part of his recruitment strategy - and it paid off greatly for him. The principle is still sound, but it's becoming harder to stick to it.
Perez likes these big deals to stretch out so that it gets a lot of media attention, but he wouldn't just let it all be United talk for the last month if we were really in for the player. That's the number one reason why I think we're not in for him.
Again with the finances..? What finances are you lot talking about all the time. 15-20 mil € here or there as if Madrid was broke. You are talking about the club that topped the Delotte Football Money leauge (biggest revenue in football) for the eleventh consecutive year (generating net profit at the end of the fiscal year). I can't believe this is even being discussed. It's literally identical to Real Madrid fans claiming "United can't be in for the player because they have no money". Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Our squad can not accommodate what we already have (there's already one 80 mil € player with huge wages on the bench), so no other galacticos are coming as long as he is here. If James is not leaving, Pogba is not coming. That's the end of it.
Pogba has already spoken highly of United and of Manchester in the past. He's currently a Juventus player so what do you expect him to say about us regarding a possible transfer? It'd be incredibly unprofessional to talk about United whilst under contract with another club. If/when he signs for us then he will give a statement expressing his love for United and then you can all put your insecurities to one side and sleep easy.
Good heavens but some muppets are slow. That's yesterday's news and was proven to be false already.
Somebody else tweeted him to ask if it was true is why.
He replied by saying that he had no idea what any of it was about. I get the impression he was just a different doctor who shared the same name, actually.
So Real Madrid do want him then. Said in an earlier post i suspected Marca were reporting no interest (at Madrids request) in order to force Pogba's hand.
Thanks guys for the replies.
I understand that, however my general point would be this: YOU are the ones who want the transfer, not Juve. The player is already Juve's, you want to buy him. So of course Juve can dictate the terms and the price.
For example, if they want to receive 100m € for Pogba, yet 20% is always going to go to Raiola, United will have to pay 120m€ so that Juve get their price. It's as easy as this. YOU are the ones who should end up paying for this, that's just logical.
I just have to laugh at the tone of indignation and moral outrage some posters have towards Juve for having the insolence to demand a certain price for their player. As if they had an obligation to sell their player to you at an price you find acceptable.
After the developments of the last 3 years, everyone knows you're equally desperate and filthy rich. Not a good basis for negotiating.
You also haven't heard "I want to join real Madrid."
Things are getting embarrassing now for all concerned. We should pull the plug on this. If he wanted to come, it would have happened - I honestly think we are being used to being Real (clearly Pogba's first choice) into negotiations.
According to Sky Sports he said both those things:
"I do not know, so far we are here (Columbus) working.
"Until August 31 anything can happen. He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen.
"The question is direct and I always say things. But now is not the time to talk about it. Everyone is interested in Pogba. He is a great player and when you're with Madrid you always want the best. Now you have to respect some things, he is a Juve player, today I cannot say anything."
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ne-zidane-quiet-on-paul-pogbas-potential-move
I read that. So obvious they're in for him and think theyll get him
FWIW, if they do bid, i think hell pick them
Yup. Time for a new target.
These drawn out transfer threads never have a happy ending these days.
Only way Real Madrid gets Pogba now is to have Kilgrave as their negotiator.
You're assuming all players are the same. They're not. Firstly, you have no idea of what Pogba really wants apart from a few articles, most of which are fabricated. Secondly, you don't give up a chance to sign one of the best midfield talents of his generation on the chance that we're not his preferred destination. If we were to only sign players who loved Manchester United and who had us as their preference we wouldn't be able to sign many, if any top tier talent. That's the harsh reality. We had a season where DDG was still bent of leaving, yet he had arguably his best season for us. These people are professionals.
Just because he's not running around confessing his love for United to the streets, doesn't mean squat. You don't know about what his agent and the several other parties involved have asked of him.
Also, he has spoken a few times about how he still loves the club. It was posted earlier on in this thread.
Yes, like Pogba can force Juventus and interested parties to agree a fee
Jesus it's not even Pogba delaying, we've already got a deal with him! it's the clubs arguing about Raiola's compensation.
It's like a massive boom bust cycle in here, akin to the scousers "it's our year!" cycle.
Time for Doom & Gloom round 756
They've taken the quote and twisted it. He DID NOT say it in those words, only the lower quote.
Nice knowing you poggy enjoy Madrid
Sorry I'm not as much of an up-to-date muppet as you!
If you took the time to read the thread instead of jumping on peoples misinformed comments to try and look ITK you'd see that I've already responded to the fact that it's old news, when a much quicker Muppet than you pointed it out!
The sentiment of my post, as I said to him, is still accurate though … perhaps you should go back and bother to read it!
I dunno, i still think Pogba is dithering a bit waiting to see what Madrid do. May have an agreement with Utd, but has one eye on them too
Have you got the original French / Spanish?
Oh dear. Prepare for impending meltdown!
Press, eh!
People: Every single reliable journalist have said that Real is not in the picture.
Stop being terrified of this 'monster' that is Real Madrid, that seems to haunt your worst nightmares.
Stop being terrified of this 'monster' that is Real Madrid, that seems to haunt your worst nightmares.
Time to let this one go, too expensive and PP has yet to show any kind of desire to come back.
Closing in on , if reports are to be believed, a £250m deal over five years. At that level, with this player, no ta.
Closing in on , if reports are to be believed, a £250m deal over five years. At that level, with this player, no ta.
Thanks Jose. Mind giving us a heads up on who you're interested in?
Sure but not worried about Barcelona as they have cleanly ruled out moving for Pogba. If Zidane had done something similar, we would not be having this conversation at all.
My point is not that Pogba is definitely moving to Madrid but that a deal with either United or Madrid is not certain either way.