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Anyone else see him making a Gareth Bale like transition?

Early days but.. best RB in world?

The sky is the limit for Trent. Athleticism, intelligence, technique, and mentality

After he scored I commented that he was the greatest young right back in history and easily worth 90 million in the current market

Future captain, PL winner, CL winner, England captain, Mastermind champion, Prime Minister, Blue Peter Badge Owner and next Dr Who.

Overdoing it? Nope!

He is going to be a very special player indeed.

He's pretty much the best RB ever. No exaggeration.
Apparently, their player TAA scored from a free kick, something that have NEVER EVER been done before by anyone, ever

Just a few tamer quotes on how they now have the best player in the world
 

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You wait, it'll go off on Saturday.

They're gonna throttle Palace, 4 or 5-0, Salah will bang 2 x goals, Mane, 'who needs Coutinho' etc.
 

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There's a pair of helpful picto-diagram illustrations to show all of this, that I *think* are related, but who knows really, :wenger:.

Easy to understand these heatmaps. Focus on the red parts:

Left shows Stevie G slipping
Right shows Liverpool's trophy cabinet in recent history.

 

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Apparently, their player TAA scored from a free kick, something that have NEVER EVER been done before by anyone, ever

Just a few tamer quotes on how they now have the best player in the world
Knowing that we have people posing as Liverpool fans from the Caf on RAWK it's becoming hard to trust what's genuine and what isn't, there's no way somebody actually believes it.
 

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Oh god I thought it was just one :wenger:
There are many many more, just check the match thread!!

Love this post as well!!

The plan is simple and quite realistic, please forward it to John Henry:


Go and get these two players from PSG:

1) Grzegorz Krychowiak
2) Julian Draxler

The cost would be about the same as one of our bids for Naby Keita.

Then you go to Southampton. Get on the phone

1) Bid £68m plus bonuses for League or CL wins, total available £70m - a world transfer record.
2) If no, fine, go to Schalke and pay the £18m for Benedikt Höwedes, for CL football and partner Matip again

You keep Coutinho.
Ignore the fact that flopp doesnt buy established players and defo no-one that is 27-29, and the fact that the players wont want to step down to lfc levels etc etc

But Krychowiak isnt for sale and PSG arent selling him, Draxler is another winger and not a position they need any more players in, VVD is NOT for sale and they have already offered that amount and told to do one, Howedes is 29 and FSG will never buy him

Coutinho will probably stay, hope he does anyway, hes really not that good and is always injured and again they have 5+ players in his position already, Plus he will be well peed off and wont be playing at his best now anyway

Apart from all that, this is a great plan for them!!

But my favourite part of their site is the many posts where Barca are scum bullys tapping up their player and trying to turn his head (for trying to do a transfer in transfer season the bastards) while what they are doing (and have done for months) to VVD is not even similar in any way at all! Just flipping between the (closed) threads discussing both transfers (or not) is so much fun, they are so deluded. Numerous posts of reporting Barca to the FA for tapping up their player, and they really dont even see that Barca arent a part of the FA as they are spanish!!!

And what they just dont seem to even register is, Southampton have sold them many players over the last few seasons so they 2 parties obviously had a great working relationship. The fact that Southampton have reported them to the FA, lfc had to grovel and apologise and now Southampton will sell to anyone apart from them shows that a lot more than "tapping up" went on with VVD! You dont do that to a business partner for no reason at all. They obviously tried to collude with the player to diddle the selling club out of a lot of money or similar. But according to them they have been nothing but perfect in their approach to VVD! You really couldnt make it up
 

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From their Palace match day thread:

"Right now only Mignolet and our front three are performing up to the standards required"

Mignolet is performing to the required standard apparently. They're setting the bar pretty low.
 

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He only let 3 goals in, that must be their standard now.
:lol:

They're gas. So many of them looking for wholesale changes this weekend, drop Mane and Salah etc. It's the second game of the season FFS. If you have to rest players already, you're screwed.
 

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He only let 3 goals in, that must be their standard now.
4 actually, in 2 games

So 76 average for the season, that really is their required level to be honest

And we are back to every virtual transfer thread on the site as closed!!

And on their squad beeing better than Barcas and beating them easily, just like they did 14 months ago in a friendly. And apparently they are great in big games because flopp has won the last 5 big cup finals he has been in hasnt he?

Obviously we could yeah, we are great in big games and our high energy, pace etc is an absolute style nightmare for them, it might be a bit like an up n coming boxer beating a veteran he'd lose to in the vets prime but this Barca team, yeah we'd beat them. We hammered them last season and while friendlies are meaningless it was a warning what that style can do to them and it continued in the CL
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I would second that, fed up of people justifying nine men behind the ball all the time, it is totally soul-destroying having to watch it constantly. Not getting any points for 0-0 is a good idea as well. I can understand people who say good defending has a place in the game, and it does, but not at the expense of the game as a whole
Now, because they are shit at defending, they want the points system changed so teams that are good at defending are punished. Because flopp just likes doing the exciting things, ie buying numerous attacking midfielders and wingers, the whole game should change

You really couldnt make this stuff up
 
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one of their top men has started a thread called - ''2017/18 Goals Conceded: How, Where, When, Who''

fair enough
I'll update here to the new posts containing goals as they're conceded, to avoid putting them all in post 2
I will update goal descriptions to reflect different opinions expressed/consensus opinion, etc.
Attacked through:
RB/RCB: 1
Between CBs: 0
LB/LCB: 1
Outside Area: 0
Set piece: 2
I've always rather disliked goals conceded post-mortems...
So it occurs to me, it might be handy to try and maintain a log of goals we concede. What sort of goal; how it comes about, where it comes from, what stage of the game, who is culpable - directly at fault perhaps, or minor contributory reasons.

Goal #1
1: Watford (A) - 0-1 - Okaka - 8'
Corner - Direct from corner, from Liverpool left. Header, approx 5 yards.
Okaka unchallenged, powerful header, between 1st zonal 6 yard defender (Matip) and 2nd (Firmino). Okaka began only 7/8 yards out, between 2nd and 3rd (Lovren) zonals; run not blocked or tracked. Matip reacted to a decoy run across him, stepped forward. Okaka ran in behind him. Firmino no reaction. Neither Matip or Firmino jumped. Mignolet got a hand to the ball, but unable to keep out.

Major Responsibility: Matip left his zone and didn't attack the ball.
Minor Responsibility: Firmino didn't react to Matip's movement and didn't attack the ball.

Questions: Is Firmino the most suitable player to have in the 2nd zonal spot, level with the centre of the goal? Should a dangerous aerial opponent like Okaka also be man marked/blocked? Could Mignolet reasonably be expected to have done better given he got a hand on the ball? Was the corner needlessly conceded?
 

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Oh Gawd

Okay it's time to kill this mad idea that Moreno was responsible at all for that second Watford goal




Now before I even take that further it should be painfully obvious to even the most bias of Moreno critics that we are well setup to defend this goal and unless #7 plays a major part in this goal, we can absolve him.

What happens next?
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#21 & #8 work the ball out of flank squaring it between Can & Hendo to #7. #16 is now running off the back of Mane who is ball watching for no reason at all. Literally just standing looking at the ball.



We are still okay there. I think at this point Gini should see that Mane has lost his man and take responsibility. But as #16 is about to enter a zone Gini is in, that shouldnt be a problem. Salah could also see that Gini is about to have a problem to deal with and take #14 who (at the moment) he thinks Gini has.

Everyone else is touch tight to their man. It´s impossible to see how 2 people will be unmarked in just 2 seconds time.

What happens next?

The square ball into midfield becomes a race to the ball between Moreno & #7. Moreno is likely to come out second best because he is behind #7 however because #16 is now unmarked running onto the ball, Moreno feels he has to attempt to win the ball to cut out an easy square pass.

Gini should be stepping across to pick up #16 run now. Isn´t.
Can, Henderson & Mane all make the collective decision to do nothing.
#8 runs off the back of Can. Despite him running into Moreno´s zone, he cannot be responsible for him as the last he saw, #8 and #21 were marked by Hendo and Can. His sole responsibility is #7.
#7 touches the ball off to #16 - both #7 and Moreno end up on the ground (seems Amrabat slips under pressure and the both go down)



Wait, how the feck did that happen?

The only Liverpool player that has moved since the last picture is Moreno. Gini hasn't moved across at all. Can is standing in literally the exact same place. Mane & Henderson gave up on any plan of tracking runners. Salah is in the vacinity of 2 Watford players so I think he is blameless.

How did #8 get there unmarked? (Hendo & Can)
Should Lovren have stepped across towards #8 yet when he saw him starting to make that run? Probably, but that is a minor thing compared to just letting him go.
Gini should have closed that gap and be in position to challenge #16 at this point. Mane also shouldn´t have let him go though.
What are Henderson and Can doing now? They are central midfielders standing on the left flank doing nothing.
Matip and TAA look good although TAA has his back to a player so needs to be aware of him.

What happens next?
#16 receives the layoff from #7. Plays in #8 unmarked.
Gini wakes up and starts tracking #16 but he is past him already
Lovren doesn´t do a great job closing down #8, possible afraid of being isolated and beaten? But this is still a minor thing.


Off screen I have no doubt that Can, Henderson & Mane are still standing in the same positions.
Moreno & #7 have been taken out of the game.
#8 has received the ball unmarked in the penalty area.
Lovren has made a vertical run backwards rather than angled towards the #8.
Matip looks good. TAA looks okay as long as he is aware of #37
Gini is fecked.
Salah takes up a good position to pick up anything that breaks to the edge of the box for people following it up.
Question: Is that a good position for Mignolet? I don´t know because I don´t understand goalkeeping. My worry is he is outside the widths of his posts. Any ball between him and TAA, for example, is an easy tapin. Or any cut back to Doucoure gives him the whole goal to aim at. Could he protect his near post but not step out that far? Again - I don´t know the answers here, just thinking out loud.

What happens next?
The ball is played between towards the back post.
Lovren slides, but cannot cut it out.
Mignolet cannot cut it out and is now in no mans land somewhat scrambling to get across his goal.
Matip & #33 end up on the ground.
TAA attempts to clear the ball but hits #33 on the ground. It breaks into the path of #16


TAA panicked a little bit and basically just blasted his clearance back where it came from. He should has got his foot under the ball to get height on it aiming to get it out for a corner or throwin. I can understand his reluctance to kick it out for a corner incase he inadvertently ends up putting it in his own net.
Mignolet ends up on the ground while trying to scramble across. Not brilliant but even if he hadn't, he likely wouldn't make it across. My only questionmark on him in this whole passage of play was stepping out so far to protect his near post. It just looked wrong, but not something I would feel confident in my knowledge enough to say it's a mistake per se. It just looked off.

What happens next?
Goal.



Responsibility?

In terms of involvement in the goal in reverse order:-
Goal itself:- Mignolet (maybe) could have done a little better. Questionable.
#16 Doucoure:- TAA fluffed his clearance, but it was a very difficult one to get right given the speed it all happened. I said before low, driven crosses don't need to pick people out, they just create mayhem that results in goals as they are the hardest cross to defend. This is a great example.
Gini lets Doucoure run into his zone, should have closed him down.
Mane lets Doucoure go, who runs off the back of him into Gini's zone
#8 Cleverly:-
Lovren could have done more to close him down and maybe cut out the cross
Hendo (Primary) or Can (Secondary) should have tracked him.
Hendo & Can could have done better pressing him not letting him out of that area on the flank perhaps.
#7 Amrabat
Moreno let Amrabat win the race to the ball, although was always second favourite. Ended up on the ground with Amrabat effectively taking them both out of the passage of play. Moreno & Matip are the only people who remained touch tight with the person they were marking. The player Moreno was marking never faced goal or went in the direction of goal. Therefore Amrabat was never a threat in the passage of play. It was only the inaction of others that resulted in the threat.
 

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That poster is right, that wasn't Moreno's fault. All 3 of Mané, Henderson and Can just stood there instead of helping tracking the full back.
 
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