Lebo
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Can anyone tell me what happened in that wing prior to Martial introduction? He is the left wing we need. Our play is too narrow with no dribbles without him. He must play every game.
Martial played 90 minutes against Newcastle and Tottenham with 45 mins on each side. Then he got played all his gametime against Chelsea on the left with Sanchez through the middle for 64 minutes. Against Brighton he played on the left for 90 minutes.I could be wrong but I think they only swapped at halftime once. The other matches they swapped late on after it was apparent that it wasn't working and we were trying to get a break through somehow.
He's been playing exactly the same though. Often ineffective, sometimes looks useful. Nothing changed in terms of performances with Sanchez's arrival except having something new to blame it on. Before that, ironically, it was because he shouldn't be played on the left. Or still just because he shouldn't be expected to perform off the bench or because of his shirt number or something.Martial isn't under performing recently because of playing out of position, he's under performing because he's lost a bit of motivation since Sanchez has taken his spot while he was growing in confidence.
He is definitely under performing as he has only got one goal or assist since Sanchez came in over 500 minutes.He's been playing exactly the same though. Often ineffective, sometimes looks useful. Nothing changed in terms of performances with Sanchez's arrival except having something new to blame it on. Before that, ironically, it was because he shouldn't be played on the left. Or still just because he shouldn't be expected to perform off the bench or because of his shirt number or something.
If he plays more like today as his consistent benchmark performance, with some outstanding performances sometimes on top, he'll obviously get chosen. That's why Lingard gets chosen. Because his benchmark has been higher, even if his ceiling isn't.
I think it depends on who he is playing against. He is far from certain beating Bellerin in a foot race on the outside, but he did get past him easily on the inside as Bellerin isn't the most agile, and for some reason seemed to anticipate that Martial would go on the inside, silly sod. However, Arsenal were quick to double up on him.He's barely played there for us, so I tend to think it's too early to say. If we try it a number of times and he continues to struggle then we have a tough decision to make, but we should give it a proper try first.
This basically destroys any credibility you could possibly have. He was clearly very good. A couple of bad passes but he changed the pace of the game, had Bellerin on toast and set up 2 or 3 good chances.Thought he was very poor when he came on. His end product was non-existent, looked lethargic and gave the ball away cheeply. Hardly looked like someone who was trying to stake a claim for a starting spot.
I dont understand why he always comes deep for the ball and never looks to play on the shoulder of the full-back, he's so quick and coming short makes him easy to mark, i'd like to see him further forward and keeping the width, its not a Mourinho thing either as he did the same under LvG.
Couldn't say it any better. Any fool can see he has something special about him, which is why no one would be surprised if he ended up fulfilling his talent somewhere else.Be a travesty if he left.
Martial on the left and Sanchez where Lingard is can also work. I don't see what Lingard can bring that Sanchez cannot do in the middle.Agreed. And I think Lingard will lose his place next game.
Despite what many think, I believe Martial played himself back into the side today and will start the next game.
Yeah he did. Pulled his gloves off and stared at the ground as he walked straight off down the tunnel.I thought I saw Martial walk straight to the tunnel right after the match yesterday. Didn't hang around to clap the fans.
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Sure, I guess if we sign a CM player he could Matic to LB to thank him for the form he’s shown us this season, and then drop him because inevitably he’s shit in a position he doesn’t play in. But at least the manager tried to accommodate him, right?After the manager tried to find a way to accommodate him in the team due to his form. What a bastard he is.
Mark Goldbridge is the biggest clown on YouTubeIt seems opposition fans rate Martial higher than United fans. Visibly you could tell the effect he had on the game in general and the fans. If we can't find a place for him in this team then I don't really know what to say...
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Because playing on a different side of the pitch with freedom to move about is the same as playing in a completely different position? Also, Martial was dropped after playing on the left against Chelsea.Sure, I guess if we sign a CM player he could Matic to LB to thank him for the form he’s shown us this season, and then drop him because inevitably he’s shit in a position he doesn’t play in. But at least the manager tried to accommodate him, right?
They don't watch him every week. Besides, Man United fans do rate Martial.It seems opposition fans rate Martial higher than United fans. Visibly you could tell the effect he had on the game in general and the fans. If we can't find a place for him in this team then I don't really know what to say...
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I don't care what Goldbridge says. Arsenal players and fans were shitting themselves when Martial came on and started to run at defenders. He is the only attacking player that we have that gets people off their seats. The game was boring but when he came on I was fixated to the TV. It's a shame that we don't value this talent on the forum.Mark Goldbridge is the biggest clown on YouTube
Exactly, almost no United fan has that opinion. It's just something that's been conjured up on here because some fans think that Martial has the to talent to force a starting spot in this side, whoever the manager may be, whilst others think it's his God given right. Apparently if you don't agree that it's his God given right, you don't rate him.What the feck is with all this nonsense about not rating him and people wanting him gone and what not? I've barely seen any people with that opinion.
Please what did he say?Did Jose say anything about Martial after the game?
EDIT: found it.
Actually Ive read some posts which have said we should cash in on him and buy a right winger because he hasnt progressed much and hasnt put in the effort and is a sulker. Seems like you’re the one making things up.Exactly, almost no United fan has that opinion. It's just something that's been conjured up on here because some fans think that Martial has the to talent to force a starting spot in this side, whoever the manager may be, whilst others think it's his God given right. Apparently if you don't agree that it's his God given right, you don't rate him.
Personally think Martial will start the next game after a cracking cameo yesterday, and if he plays well, he'll start the game after that too.
I was referring to the bit that was posted in Castles tweet one page before this one.Please what did he say?
Arsenal fans, in particular, have a very strange hard on for Martial I've noticed.It seems opposition fans rate Martial higher than United fans. Visibly you could tell the effect he had on the game in general and the fans. If we can't find a place for him in this team then I don't really know what to say...
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This. Been a trend all season.Gave us much needed width and directness when he came on today.
Not sure why Mourinho wants 8 players all central with only 2 players (full back) giving us width. It just doesn't work, and it means we're ineffective when we try and counter teams.
That doesn't mean people don't rate him Cass. It simply means that some fans see the talent but think we could buy someone who fits the team better.Actually Ive read some posts which have said we should cash in on him and buy a right winger because he hasnt progressed much and hasnt put in the effort and is a sulker. Seems like you’re the one making things up.
Having said that seems most of the caf rates him some too much and some not enough clearly
The fact is he is already better than Sanchez, and the gap will only get larger as he improves as a player. Not to mention Sanchez has already started declining, he lost a yard of pace this season, as was noticeable watching him play for Arsenal in the first half of the season.
Welcome to "Martial v Sanchez café"
Ok calm downThe fact is he is already better than Sanchez, and the gap will only get larger as he improves as a player. Not to mention Sanchez has already started declining, he lost a yard of pace this season, as was noticeable watching him play for Arsenal in the first half of the season.