@Berbaclass was this you two days ago?
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Good job you're not in Qatar then.
Yes. One that has 5 speeds and can also heat as well.
Literally long enough for you to change your opinion tbf.
I knew Qatar buying us would have some benefits.
The Glazers would happily sell us to Satan
What's the latest? Too many pages to read up on.
Ouch
As it happens I have. I agree with you now believe it or not. I think you are totally right and Qatar should be shunned totally and completely by the western world.
All hail the Glazers.
You don’t have to justify yourself mate. This place has gone bonkers.
Felt sad tonight shortly after the game when I remembered the takeover stuff. I'm not sure how strongly I'll feel when the time comes, if we are to be a state sport-washing project, but I'm pretty sure if I had a vote and it was between that or the status quo I'd like things to stay as they are.
But it’s like taking out pay day loans. It’s not sustainable.
I’m sure Spurs etc could get higher in the table if they let everything infrastructure wise go to complete shit and just discussed in transfers
Thats how The Glazers disguised what they were taking out. If they kept what was needed for Basic upkeep our spend would be a lot less.We didn’t have a chest code we had reckless spending
Not much, @Wumminator has been conducting the Caf equivalent of the Nuremberg trials. Only #TopReds remain.
Ok Robocop.
Yeah your choice seems to be getting giddy over the benefits and dissociation of the ownership. You don't see the issue with that?
The club and players as all staff will be under gagging orders so they won't be able to say a word but us fans aren't. Pretending the owners are nothing to do with us and that turning a blind eye isn't an act akin to defending them whilst cheering the financial benefits is so incredibly depressing.
Some of you are just upset that others are harshing your vibe whilst you want to celebrate a sugar daddy. At least theyll buy your silence with shiny new toys I guess.
At this stage there seems to be more posts moaning about the moaning posts than the original posts they're moaning about.
But also to be fair if you removed all the posts on here from the past decade that could be described as moaning, there'd be very little left to read.
I don't feel like we're close, not yet anyway. And I don't think we'll get there again in our lifetimes. On the pitch we were exciting and dominant. But Fergie himself, was so much more than just a manager. I feel like part of the club, the magic, the values, the community feel between the club and the fans, it all left with him. Instead we've been left to look at the club for what it is without him in charge, and it just feels soulless now. He created the identity for the club, built on history of what came before him also, and I just don't see it any more.
fecking ouch
Outside?
Or some of us have just accepted the reality of the situation and don’t live in an idealist fantasy land? I absolutely hated these type of owners at the other clubs, 100%. Was that some jealousy that our position was under threat? Our targets being stolen? Also, 100%. In an ideal world would any of this be happening? No.
Here’s the idea I’ve come to accept though, as a football fan I hated these owners because of the success they brought to other clubs, the moral argument was never the leading one for me. It’s far too complicated and where does the line end? What do you boycott? Everything? Nothing is clean anymore. Do I want an owner that will continue to make us competitive on the pitch? Yes. I’ve come to terms with it.
Serve the public, protect the innocent, uphold the law.
Commission the statue.
If you were expecting us to be like the Fergie years again, I've got something else to sell you.
Those years won't be repeated again. The world has changed a lot since then.
Yeah the thing is, this always happens, I'm sure people watching in the 60s felt that once the game went more global, the club had lost its identity, even though it was time that we all felt was great growing up, football has been moving away from local sports to global entertainment for a long time, this is just the latest step
A law will be passed that they will have the latest United away kit tattooed onto their bodies every season incl the kit sponsors.
SUUUIIIIII
True. But they are all supporting a Saudi bid now.
I told you so on Wednesday.
Saudi, Qatari, Kuwaiti, Emarati, Bahraini or Omani it doesn't matter it We're all Khaleeji. I know my people and how they do business. When I say it'll happen don't take it with a pinch of salt.
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The sport and league itself have changed to the point where it's now just about impossible to have a similar sustained run of dominance/excellence over a lengthy period of time under 1 manager like that.
Forget Fergie, I'd be shocked if we see managers staying on for as long as Wenger did.
The current longest tenured manager in Europe currently, Simeone, is only halfway there.
Haha?
Plus other C suites and middle management's bonuses will be affected by the 5billion quid 'loan'.
I stand by all of those comments. But that doesn’t mean that I can walk away from Manchester United.
In a perfect world a British billionaire would buy the club, remove all debt and provide the infrastructure changes we need. But that is incredibly unlikely.
Do I agree with some religions beliefs when it comes to sexuality and women’s rights? No I don’t. But I have no control over that and it’s not my place to tell someone that their religion is wrong.
What you are doing to posters tonight is pathetic. You can wash your hands of the club if you wish and that’s fine. It’s your choice pal. But many of us can’t and that’s not wrong either.
Its just the PL going onto another level. Used to be clubs owned by rich folks or hereditary. Then it was owned by multi-millionaires, then a single-digit billionaire.
But with the success of the PL, its now the business of the top 1-2% of billionaires (there are 2,000+ billionaires in the world) or super deep-pocket entities.
Its the inevitable development of a very successful product.
the shareholders and board are three people, they can do whatever they like, and they seem to like investing in sports
The world has changed? Perhaps. But ultimately there's just not anybody capable of filling his boots. Like I said, he was more than just a manager, he was the soul of the club. He set standards, he brought ideology that we all bought into. The morals, the values. The way he followed his principles in a what was already a murky industry with financial doping, and still came out on top more often than not, was remarkable. Now we're just like the rest, except we have a good story behind our name. Our standards and dignity has been eroded away ever since. The Super League debacle was the end of the old United.
The same as what has happened to the non-city fans living in Abu Dhabi. Absolutely nothing.
That's why the ESL's future going forward is to battle with the current Superleague, the PL. And that's why we will need powerful allies at the UEFA level if not FIFA.
I mean I don't know what you were expecting with all due respect.
There was never going to be a SAF 2.0 - Our fans need to make peace with the fact that SAF and what he brought will never be replicated and any attempts of re-creating that are futile.
I honestly think Ole got so much leeway from some on here(not saying you specifically), because some hoped he could fill that role.
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