VidaRed
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England avenge maradona's hand of god goal. Although they still managed to drawEng had lost the match without that extra 4 runs. Feel awful for NZ
England avenge maradona's hand of god goal. Although they still managed to drawEng had lost the match without that extra 4 runs. Feel awful for NZ
The collective crying whenever England win something is so hilarious.
Again, I accpect the timing of the post was poor. However, Archer was relevant compared to the others as his case was so high profile recently and he had just bowled the final over to win the WC.I don't know if you are or aren't a racist as I don't know you, but I can fully accept you probably didn't make the conscious decision that you don't like him playing for England. I do think that subconsciously you focused on Archer because he looks different and made a point you wouldn't have made (and didn't make) about those three at the time. That doesn't make you a terrible person, we all carry subconscious biases and assumptions when it comes to race whether people are willing to admit it or not, but, in this instance it led to you repeating a talking point which people who definitely are racists strongly believe and have been bleating on about for months.
All I'm hoping to achieve by highlighting it is that you think about why that was one of your first thoughts when England had just won the World Cup.
If it was India who won like this you wouldn't here a peep from him. This is a guy who wants a replay of the semi just because his team lost.People tend to stick up for their country, you'd be the same if the boot was on the other foot had your country just won the wc and people were trying to shit on it
I'm not offended in the slightest. Seriously, you're making me hate England more and I can't wait for you to tour India next .You've spoken shite about England all Summer, so I'm just giving you stick some back.
Stop being offended.
That was a fecking joke. God damn.If it was India who won like this you wouldn't here a peep from him. This is a guy who wants a replay of the semi just because his team lost.
Nah, I enjoy that our brilliance upsets small-timers. Getting beaten by better teams is always hard to take so salty bitterness is understandable if you haven't the class to accept when you are inferior.People tend to stick up for their country, you'd be the same if the boot was on the other foot had your country just won the wc and people were trying to shit on it
Yeah it will be nice for India to welcome the World Champions wont it?I'm not offended in the slightest. Seriously, you're making me hate England more and I can't wait for you to tour India next .
Even better when we beat the World Champions of luck.Yeah it will be nice for India to welcome the World Champions wont it?
Even better when we beat the World Champions of luck.
Should have a guard of honourYeah it will be nice for India to welcome the World Champions wont it?
No like if its 5-5 in a pen shootout and they give it to the team with the most shots on goal.You mean like it’s a draw in football and they give it to the team who can score the most penalties?
Are you tenEven better when we beat the World Champions of luck.
Damn, just because India's a third world country doesnt make them inferior.Nah, I enjoy that our brilliance upsets small-timers. Getting beaten by better teams is always hard to take so salty bitterness is understandable if you haven't the class to accept when you are inferior.
A real honour for the nation as a whole to welcome winners in to the nation.Yeah it will be nice for India to welcome the World Champions wont it?
As an Indian fan I’m not bitter towards England winning, more India fecking their own chances up. India cruised to the semis without a middle order and had the management and selection been on point we’d have had a much better chance of winning the whole thing.Why are some of the Indian fans so bitter? You lot had a golden chance to knock England out but you didn't even try to win the game.
It's every time, in any sport you get people furious and bitter trying to belittle it.The collective crying whenever England win something is so hilarious.
You are how old?Even better when we beat the World Champions of luck.
If it was India who won like this you wouldn't here a peep from him. This is a guy who wants a replay of the semi just because his team lost.
India to win another meaningful tour on home soil but chole when it matters eh.I'm not offended in the slightest. Seriously, you're making me hate England more and I can't wait for you to tour India next .
Was a bizarre game too.Why are some of the Indian fans so bitter? You lot had a golden chance to knock England out but you didn't even try to win the game.
Wait.
Do people still genuinely believe this is a good argument?
Doesn't matter what we win, could be tiddlywinks or could be the football world cup final .. there will always be bitter 'Anyone But England' fans who haven't quite been able to accept our sheer majesty as a nation.It's every time, in any sport you get people furious and bitter trying to belittle it.
It's remarkable.
Why are some of the Indian fans so bitter? You lot had a golden chance to knock England out but you didn't even try to win the game.
A lot of the cricket season happens when schools are on break though. It also takes a lot of space, kit etc. The flip side of this is that rugby often faces the stigma of being rough and a hard sport which puts people off.I went to school in the UK and the sports was always focused more on Rugby and Football. Cricket was never played. Maybe its different now or was (and is) different at other schools, but the feeling I got was that Football and Rugby were top.
Of course it does.Really doesn't matter that he bowled the last over at all, England win the world cup not just Archer. That's a bollocks cop out excuse.
He moved over when he was 18 so fecking what his dad is English and he has British passport so why does when he moved to the UK matter in bloody slightest? Doesn't matter if his case is different, the poster said (after i had asked him) that he didn't agree with them playing for England either. So why not just state you don't agree with certain types of players representing England rather than single out one player? We just won the world cup and he bowled the last over, but if that's one of the first things you can say after we've just won a world cup you're gonna called out on it end of. He has no credibility whatsoever and got rightly called out on his bollocks views.
I didn't. I didn't know the rules before the gameI do agree more boundaries were a crap rule but we all knew the rules before the game
I know. India deserve a replay of the semisWith a bit of cheating and a massive amount of luck england managed to nick a draw.
Most undeserving world cup winners. NZ are the winners in spirit.
I love it personally! Would rather be hated than be a nothing, non-entity sporting nation.Doesn't matter what we win, could be tiddlywinks or could be the football world cup final .. there will always be bitter 'Anyone But England' fans who haven't quite been able to accept our sheer majesty as a nation.
Timing of the comment wasn't great and can see why people think it could be racist, but he's explained himself and can understand where he's coming from now.
There's several far more legitimate reasons why he feels this way about Archer. He didn't move to England until he was 18. Until the ECB changed its rules 7 months ago he wouldn't even have been eligible to play. He just bowled the winning over. You have decided though that the reason he's selected Archer is because he's black. And now he's explained why he feels that way about Archer, and why he also feels the same way about KP, you're still TELLING him it's because, deep down, he's still a wee bit racist. Unbelievable.
Neither did the players until the final couple of balls.I didn't. I didn't know the rules before the game
Would work...if we need a rule dumber than the current one.How about both teams field at the same time,. And both teams bat at the same time. and both teams bowl at the same time. Team with the most at the end of the super-duper over wins
The players did!I didn't. I didn't know the rules before the game
Doesn't matter what we win, could be tiddlywinks or could be the football world cup final .. there will always be bitter 'Anyone But England' fans who haven't quite been able to accept our sheer majesty as a nation.
Nice to hear. I guess the most important thing is that a) the young kids are getting into sports and b) the young kids are enjoying it too!A lot of the cricket season happens when schools are on break though. It also takes a lot of space, kit etc. The flip side of this is that rugby often faces the stigma of being rough and a hard sport which puts people off.
I couldn't say which is the bigger sport nationally but local to me cricket appears bigger. Lots more local teams and leagues running. And I say this as someone raised in a rugby playing family who played the game through childhood and as an adult.
This.The collective crying whenever England win something is so hilarious.