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You clearly haven't seen enough Januzaj. He's at least as bad as Memphis. There's a reason he didn't play for Dortmund.
I hope I'm wrong, but I am not excited about him coming back. I don't think this is the type of boost we want.
I guess he simply had too much competition for his position at Dortmund; Reus, Miki, Kagawa, Castro. It's fair game that he can't get a place ahead of them, doesn't automatically make him as shit as Memphis has been. Tactically, stylistically, competitively, he just didn't fit in.
 

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I guess he simply had too much competition for his position at Dortmund; Reus, Miki, Kagawa, Castro. It's fair game that he can't get a place ahead of them, doesn't automatically make him as shit as Memphis has been. Tactically, stylistically, competitively, he just didn't fit in.
He was often quite good when he played, actually, and Tuchel's comments on him were positive. As you say, you can't blame him for leaving the lad on the bench with such good senior players in such hot form ahead of him.

I'm glad to have him back. When his confidence is up he's a superb player, and with Memphis unable to find form at the moment another wide man who can beat a man with pace and dribbling is very welcome.
 

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Delighted if this stops the Anderson transfer.
Not sure there's anything to stop, but if there is then I agree.

Januzaj might not be the nice shiny new signing everybody wanted but it is exciting all the same, get a defender in now and we will finally have a squad with a bit of depth, then it's over to LvG.
 

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You clearly haven't seen enough Januzaj. He's at least as bad as Memphis. There's a reason he didn't play for Dortmund.
I hope I'm wrong, but I am not excited about him coming back. I don't think this is the type of boost we want.
Bs.He has show plenty of positive things when he played this season.Of course that wasn't enough for him to play regularly at either club but Memphis was really out of his depth and that comes from someone who believe he has a future here.

About Januzaj coming back,I don't think he'll be thrown straight to the starting XI but we surely can benefit from the increased competition.Memphis and Mata certainly need more competitors for their places to kick their ass up and we can have something from the bench now other than the afroman.
 
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If it is LVG making these kind of decisions I'd be interested to know how that compares to other big clubs. Has he decided to send Powell on loan for example or have Forest come to Woodward(?) and asked if Powell is surplus to requirements at the moment?

Comes back to this DOF that a few people have been writing about in recent months and whether the manager should be allowed this kind of power, or whether he even wants it.
 

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He will walk straight on to the bench but will get starts once he gets his fitness right considering Bundesliga has been on a break.
 

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So he's been recalled. Was his spell there really bad? I seem to remember it starting ok.
Not very good, hardly played, also I think when he played in a league game (I think it was a league game) he got the worst rating ever.
 

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LVG is just making it up as he goes along.
It was never a good decision to for him to go to BVB but apparently he insisted on it over a championship side so thats on him.
With LVG I get the sense that he just keeps throwing shit at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.
 

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Looking forward to seeing him back. I just hope he's not thrown in as a central midfielder at the weekend then sold for being awful.

We could really benefit from his creativity out wide if he can find form again.
 

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If Adnan can get his belief back, he can provide the outlet on the right wing that we really need though. At his best Adnan ghosts past players and he has good delivery. Martial is offering that on the left, if we get it from Adnan on the right too our season might change significantly. Adnan has had a terrible time of it under Van Gaal, if given a chance I still believe he could go on to be brilliant for United.
 

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Excellent. Don't care how he did for Dortmund but I've seen more than enough from him to know he's a fantastic talent. I'll be distraught if we manage to somehow feck up one of the best talents to come through our academy in some time.
 

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Serious question, what will he offer than Mata can't on the right wing?
 

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Serious question, what will he offer than Mata can't on the right wing?
If he can regain some of his form from Moyes's season - ability to beat his player consistently with pace and trickery, more consistent delivery, ability to turn on the ball, ability to control the ball in tight areas of the field. He also has an eye for the killer pass, and the ability to deliver it with high accuracy, but I feel that Mata also has this trait but doesn't try it as often as he should, however, he doesn't have the penetrating runs off the ball needed to do this at a high rate.
 

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I think he has the ability to pass a full back with his dribbling. Something mata will never do. Also has more pace
Yes, true. Hopefully he does just that - can see the difference Young made against Swansea.
 

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Great news, will be like a new signing. If we can play like we did in the first half against Chelsea, bombing forward on the break, he can definitely contribute something.
 

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Whoever wants Adnan to provide a spark through his dribbling, well I hope you don't overly criticize him so much when he loses the ball. That's the thing with dribbling. The decision to dribble is the decision making. The ability to pull off the dribble is what affects fan's perception of the player's decision making.

I personally want him to cut back on his dribbing and focus more on being dangerous through his passing.
 

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Excellent. Don't care how he did for Dortmund but I've seen more than enough from him to know he's a fantastic talent. I'll be distraught if we manage to somehow feck up one of the best talents to come through our academy in some time.
My guess is LVG won't afford him the same patience as he has done with Memphis.
 

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Did they expect him to fire on all cylinders ? When you have a loan spell at Dortmund you will eventually face the same you were in before.

More playing time as a youngster vs a lower classed club > more playing time
More playing time as a youngster at a big club > less playing time

Its that simple really. The wrong club to develop, should have stayed in the Premier League as LVG stated earlier.
 

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People who are saying he's bad are ridiculous, we've all seen how well he can play.

I think it's down to a case of tactics/instructions.

If he is given a free creative role he will flourish, do you honestly see players let alone midfielders getting a "free" role in a LVG team?
 

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^^^^This^^^^

We have seen him play outstanding, we have seen him be average and we have seen him struggle - the question is, will this "philosophy" give him an opportunity to succeed.

There have been some very talented players not be able to succeed in this style - DiMaria comes to mind.

If Adnan can create chances on the dribble or the pass - and if LVG can accept that and overlook some of his mistakes, I think he will make it.

If not - he will make it elsewhere in time.
 

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Ronaldo and Fergie showed that allowing a brilliant player creative freedom even if it means he loses the ball from time to time and has to have someone to cover in case he does isn't exactly always a bad thing for the team.

It's all made up for when there's that spark of genius to win a match.
 

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Ronaldo and Fergie showed that allowing a brilliant player creative freedom even if it means he loses the ball from time to time and has to have someone to cover in case he does isn't exactly always a bad thing for the team.

It's all made up for when there's that spark of genius to win a match.
I dunno,
You have to strike a balance.
Ronaldos last season for us, with him shooting on sight and basically never passing was kind of frustrating at times.

I'm not against a bit of discipline and everyone pitching in a bit. Van Gaal probably takes it a bit far though.
 

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Not very good, hardly played, also I think when he played in a league game (I think it was a league game) he got the worst rating ever.
IIRC it was a Europa League game where it should be said to his defense that the whole team did not perform very well. He was, however, recognized as the worst player in said poor team.
 

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I dunno,
You have to strike a balance.
Ronaldos last season for us, with him shooting on sight and basically never passing was kind of frustrating at times.

I'm not against a bit of discipline and everyone pitching in a bit. Van Gaal probably takes it a bit far though.
I'm not against that either, which is why that freedom is generally only given to one player.

A special player.
 

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Funny how he can be worse when nearly 21 than he was when he was 18, and he was consistent enough that moyes season. Tells me that it's expectations, difficulties working within the tactics, confidence.

If he can rediscover the confidence while working within van gaals system he can make a difference. People are going to think it's ridiculous but during moyes season he was our martial - nothing happened without him making it happen. I hope he plays on the right wing with some space and has the freedom to run at people and make things happen. Him and martial down either side and we might actually make some chances and generate some atmosphere in OT the second half of the season.

Doesn't really solve our problem of someone going in and taking those chances ruthlessly tho
 

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Funny how he can be worse when nearly 21 than he was when he was 18, and he was consistent enough that moyes season.
Completely disagree with this tbh.
Think people exaggerated his impact under moyes and were too harsh on his impact last season which was more or less the same imo.
A couple of volleys came off under moyes, under van gaal they were blocked or went an inch or two over.
Fine margins and all that.
 

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Funny how he can be worse when nearly 21 than he was when he was 18, and he was consistent enough that moyes season. Tells me that it's expectations, difficulties working within the tactics, confidence.

If he can rediscover the confidence while working within van gaals system he can make a difference. People are going to think it's ridiculous but during moyes season he was our martial - nothing happened without him making it happen. I hope he plays on the right wing with some space and has the freedom to run at people and make things happen. Him and martial down either side and we might actually make some chances and generate some atmosphere in OT the second half of the season.

Doesn't really solve our problem of someone going in and taking those chances ruthlessly tho
Indeed. He was a magical young player destined for greatness amidst a pile of rubble, at the time. That's why I have hope for him and his potential, because we've already seen him do brilliant things. Imagine 13/14 Januzaj and 15/16 martial in tandem. All it needs it 13/15 Memphis and were sorted :)
 

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Talented kid but I'm not surprised that LvG, Tuchel and Wilmots are not convinced in him at this moment in time. There was an article in the other Januzaj thread that was basically saying Adnan thinks he's better than he is and it is so true. He's a player that plays for himself; taking shots when he should pass and running into packs of defenders only to lose the ball. With some players, you allow them to be individuals if they return the numbers (e.g. Ronaldo, Robben and Sturridge even) but in Adnan's case he returns poor numbers for both goals and assists and that would infuriate any manager given his style of play.

I'm not writing him off but before he can even be seen as anything useful for our club, we need to decide what kind of player he is because right now I don't think anyone really knows.

He's played as a winger the most but I'm not convinced because he lacks the pace and is not that great a dribbler imo.

Adnan himself seems to think he's a long term No.10 but his passing is mediocre and also does he have the intelligence to play there?

LvG during pre-season said he saw him as a striker and interestingly enough Moyes shared that opinion could they be right?
 

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He's played as a winger the most but I'm not convinced because he lacks the pace and is not that great a dribbler imo.

Adnan himself seems to think he's a long term No.10 but his passing is mediocre and also does he have the intelligence to play there?

LvG during pre-season said he saw him as a striker and interestingly enough Moyes shared that opinion could they be right?
His passing isn't mediocre. No idea where you got that idea from.
 

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I loathe highlight reel videos in most cases - but this stuff didn't happen by accident.


The philosophy must've coached it out of him - because it's been a while since he looked as free as he did under Moyes-eh
 

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Can't stand this kid. All that video showed was him bursting away from a few defenders. Him scoring them two goals on has debut has just painted the wrong picture. Look at Macheda now! I have more faith in Jesse. We need to send this kid to a Championship club.
 
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