Didn't notice that today was the first time United as a whole were solid defensively since pretty much his last game? We usually leak a few big chances every game. Nothing today.
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Because they both really didn't have any weaknesses, Vidic was Bailly at his best with added phenomenal abillity in the air, Rio had anticipation out of this world and was more cultured than Bailly ever will be.
Would you wager on Bailly reaching Nesta and Cannavaro levels? Because that is the level we are talking about (atleast for Rio, Vidic wasn't quite there).
I will settle for WC.
Seeing him today just makes you think how different our season could of been had he stayed fit. Such a big advantage having him. Hope he stays injury free until the end of the season.
this has to be one of the vaguest and most empty answers as to why a player can't/won't reach others
edit - just saw your second reply
Bailly is in his early 20s, he has more than enough time to develop his game. Vidic was not without faults when he arrived here.
"cultured"???
Exactly. We were comfortable with Liverpool probing as there was no way through. Though it wasn't exactly fun to watch and I was a nervous wreck, we looked solid at the back and weren't relying on DDG bailing us out. It was a very good defensive performance and Liverpool created feck all despite their statistical dominance.
I genuinely miffed at the people that can't see the massive potential this lad has. He has it in him to be one of the best around. I'm not saying he hadn't got flaws but he's young enough to work on them. I do worry about his constant niggling injuries, though.
Blunder aside, he's so so good. He even made Smalling look world class 
Agreed, but to be fair Smalling does have (by far) the most vocal 'anti-player' posters these days. The lengths that some people go to to slag him off is ridiculous. That does push some people who would otherwise perhaps be neutral into being more 'pro-player' than they really should be, trying to negate the amount of rubbish. Personally, although I am a self-confessed Smalling fan (and have been since his debut season), I try my best to avoid doing that and stay as neutral as possible and point out his actual mistakes.
On the other hand I've seen a poster the other week call someone a 'wanker' because they criticised Smalling. I mean, come on. Yeah he gets stick but there's some in that thread that bring it on themselves. It's probably one of the worst threads on here so it's best to leave a comment and get out of there ASAP.
Koscielny never had the talent Bailly has. In my opinion Bailly has already played games at a level Koscielny never achieved.
He is one of my absolute favourites in United and I believe he is among the absolute best CBs in the PL. However I think he get a little too praised today, beacause he is everybody's favourite, everybody loves him, etc and back from long absence. All other CBs would be hung high if they invited back Liverpool in the game like he did.
I think he did overall good, some good things and some bad. Some of his normally very good timing was not there and he got fooled sometimes like when Firmino dribbled him, don't think that would happen when he is 100% up to speed. Then of course the own goal. That was really clumsy but also something that is less likely to have happened if he had had some games.
Dont think he will play Sevilla.
He was genuinely class aside from the ridiculous own goal
People are praising Ramos as this generation best defender. I will put anything on the table saying this, if Bailly keeps fit, he'll be a much better defender than Ramos.
And I didn't say that he'll be better than Ferdinand or Vidic. But he'll be one of United best player.
Will he be able to also start against Sevilla?
Thought he was brilliant today except for that inexplicable own goal. Smalling was great too.
Lacks match rhythm, but is one hell of a CB. The goal was sublime too
Yes, that's the point I was trying to make
I dont think he is close to Ramos, but who knows what the future holds. Ramos is not only a good defender and leader, he has scored more than 70 goals for Real Madrid. And some of those were really important ones, like the 90+ min header in the CL final. He has won everything: world cup, Euro, CL, la liga... and most of those titles several times.
The guy is weird. Likeable weird but still fecking weird. I didn't even think it was possible to score an own goal from such an acute angle until he did.
A big problem there is Bailly's relative weakness in the air, something that Ramos is very strong at. Bailly is also, while being arguably our best with the ball at his feet, nowhere near as good as Ramos at that. Ramos is also a big-game player.
If he can reach a similar level to Ramos I'm sure we'll all be ecstatic.
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Somehow this doesn't surprise me twiggy.
Of course! Although I don't really rate Ramos in the GOATs level, but not denying his world-class level. That being said, I honestly think Bailly's ceiling is higher.
Heading can be taught. With more experience, usually player learnt more about the ball trajectory and how to time his jump.
Trophies are hard to compete, as it depends on so many factors. And I really don't measure CB by the amount of goals he's scored. Baresi only scored like 17 goals in his whole career. Desailly had 23, Ferdinand had 14 goals.
that pirouette had me laughing. he is gone for months, and then he comes back and does that? one of my favorites of the team, and I rarely says that about a CB.
I thought he was absolutely fecking monstrous today. No match fitness and against undoubtedly one of the best attacks in world football. What a purchase he was.
Really hope he stays fit because he makes a massive difference.
I was pissing myself. And then to lose it seconds after - that is Bailly all over
Our best defender without a doubt. Boy have we missed him! Though he was still man of the match in spite of the own goal.
In fairness I think Milner didn't even know where he was at that moment after Rashford scrambled his brains with that shot to his face earlier.
We need him to be fit for most of next season if we are going to mount a serious title challenge! He showed today how much we missed him.
This guy is my favorite. He's an African Vidic in the making. Hope for good health, cuz he's on his way.
my thoughts exactly when it happened
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