Fully agree. To be honest current Rom is far from being a top striker for United, especially if we are playing with a single striker tactics.
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Playing against Spain (he got an assist and a goal in the 2-3 victory for England) is much tougher than playing against Everton.
For all those saying he would work better as a second striker, how many top teams play with a second striker these days?
If he can’t play as a lone striker he will need to work on being a wide player if he wants to ever be a regular starter.
Agree that Sanchez should have been given a run at the striker position. He’s done well for Arsenal there before and it stops him from coming so deep like he does when he plays on the wing.
If he can’t play as a lone striker he will need to work on being a wide player if he wants to ever be a regular starter.
Agree that Sanchez should have been given a run at the striker position. He’s done well for Arsenal there before and it stops him from coming so deep like he does when he plays on the wing.
If Mourinho starts Lukaku, he wouldn't sub him off. If Rashford starts, he would sub him off. This is the difference! Mourinho needs to show a fair amount of loves to his players especially Martial & Rashford, he can't just have his own favourite players that he's willing to give them chances until they scores but not treat the same to the others. If Rashford stayed on the field 90 mins, may be he could score one goal.
Pretty average, it's still odd seeing a player who isn't Rooney with the #10.
Give him a run of games upfront, show faith in him.
I agree. Martial is excellent coming in from the left, he's in a great vein of form, lets leave him to make the best of that. Rashford looks a little unconfortable on the right, he's played at the top during his youth, lets give him time and a run of games to adapt to that position. Lukaku is bang out of form, this is the perfect opportunity.
The biggest issue is if we play him loan striker, the Arial threat is nullify. can't remember he win any header yesterday.
It's basically an international friendly that noone takes seriously
The only way he can play as a lone striker is in the same way Vardy plays. Those two are pretty comparable. That is to say he's not very well suited to play up top in a team that will keep the ball, and neither is Lukaku fwiw.
My guess is he could go on loan somewhere and look pretty amazing in a counter attacking team and then come back into our team and look pretty average. Simply because we're not going to constantly pump long balls and play in transition like Vardy gets to w Leicester.
He is probably the better option for us against teams we concede possession to. That list does seem to be growing under Mourinho.
My guess is he could go on loan somewhere and look pretty amazing in a counter attacking team and then come back into our team and look pretty average. Simply because we're not going to constantly pump long balls and play in transition like Vardy gets to w Leicester.
He is probably the better option for us against teams we concede possession to. That list does seem to be growing under Mourinho.
Spain looked like they took it pretty seriously with the way they were trying to claw their way back into the game.
I liked the effort he puts in running the channels but he is just not good enough to be a striker here. He has no instinct for it. Even an average mid table PL striker buries the chances he messes up.
Made average balls look good yesterday with his running. Movement and Effort cannot be faulted.
Lukaku could learn a thing or two!
I dont think Rashford can be as prolific a goalscorer as Lukaku though...
Lukaku could learn a thing or two!
I dont think Rashford can be as prolific a goalscorer as Lukaku though...
Pretty much echos what people are saying who are not fixated with Lukaku. Wasn't great vs Everton, need minutes to develop but showed his presence improved the flow of the team
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The manager has to pick the players that are in form and putting in a shift. Lukaku looks like he’s been on the Pizzas or doughnuts. We should have had four goals yesterday at least.
That's why the Spain players mobbed the ref after the final whistle because they only got 7 minutes injury time and got back to within one goal. Morata even got booked for dissent. Spain took the game very seriously, as have all nations in the higher bracket of the Nations League.
Yeah that's a pretty good comparison I think, fits with what I said about Rashford earlier.
He's not a number 9, he's not a right winger either. He's at his best when he plays in exactly the same position as Martial.
He's also very down on confidence at the moment as well
He's also very down on confidence at the moment as well
I think the idea of having physicality up front is a bit overrated. Rashford didn't struggle against Everton and I don't think he would struggle against the likes of Bournemouth or Valencia. I think it's only against certain teams who park the bus (e.g. Chelsea in the FA Cup final last season) that he might have trouble.
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I agree with a lot of that. I thought, in isolation, he might have been our worst performer vs Everton. Having said that, I enjoyed seeing him stretching the Everton defence, making runs all the time in this and that direction. By doing so, he was making space for Mata, Pogba and Martial by forcing defenders out of position.
The Everton defenders know of his blistering pace and had to adjust accordingly. So in summation, I think he makes it easier for his teammates. With a little more cool (experience?) he might have had two goals, instead of being two metres offside on both occasions. He has a good shot on him too, from distance as well, which Lukaku simply doesn’t. I’d like to see more of those, and think we will when/if he ever regains form and confidence.
As of now, I’d go for Sanchez there, as he’s more experienced and much more creative. Rashford is much more preferred than Lukaku though, imo. We actually had to pass the ball, which was a nice change of pace.
He needs coaching. Lots of it. I think some of you are glossing over that in favour of just considering him good to go because he is a starter in our first xi when the two things are not mutually exclusive.
The problem with leaving an underdeveloped kid to his own devices is that he's basically having to muddle through and make countless errors with no one guiding him on the correct things to be doing rather than barking at him for ruining a tactical schematic or for going into his shell where he'll revert to type out of desperation more than anything.
His off the ball movement and running of the line and angles is light years above Lukaku's, and if we do keep Rashford up top, the objective should be to get a goal-scorer in behind him to exploit those defense-splitting runs Rashford tirelessly makes. I would have said that hole position would be good for Mata or Sanchez a couple of seasons ago, but now? It's not laughable to think Lingard would be the best at it in the squad, which, I'm not sure if it's praise for Lingard or an indictment of where we are in terms of attackers as a club at the moment.
I prefer the fluidity of Rashford to the dopey, static movement of Lukaku, personally; one benefits our other attackers (and Martial is enjoying the exploits a lot, and so is Pogba) and it makes us harder to play against. Lukaku's currency is goals and without them, he doesn't off us much, whilst Rashford can still provide a lot for the team even if he isn't scoring by way of aiding others to do so. Until Lukaku finds some semblance of form for putting the ball in the back of the net, I don't think it's a hard choice to make between who should be our starting #9 at this moment in time.
The problem with leaving an underdeveloped kid to his own devices is that he's basically having to muddle through and make countless errors with no one guiding him on the correct things to be doing rather than barking at him for ruining a tactical schematic or for going into his shell where he'll revert to type out of desperation more than anything.
His off the ball movement and running of the line and angles is light years above Lukaku's, and if we do keep Rashford up top, the objective should be to get a goal-scorer in behind him to exploit those defense-splitting runs Rashford tirelessly makes. I would have said that hole position would be good for Mata or Sanchez a couple of seasons ago, but now? It's not laughable to think Lingard would be the best at it in the squad, which, I'm not sure if it's praise for Lingard or an indictment of where we are in terms of attackers as a club at the moment.
I prefer the fluidity of Rashford to the dopey, static movement of Lukaku, personally; one benefits our other attackers (and Martial is enjoying the exploits a lot, and so is Pogba) and it makes us harder to play against. Lukaku's currency is goals and without them, he doesn't off us much, whilst Rashford can still provide a lot for the team even if he isn't scoring by way of aiding others to do so. Until Lukaku finds some semblance of form for putting the ball in the back of the net, I don't think it's a hard choice to make between who should be our starting #9 at this moment in time.
@Fortitude I agree with your post - well written, I said this a few pages back and people said i was wrong. Rashford needs a good coach, you can see he has potential that needs to be developed further. You can clearly see the difference in how he plays for England and with us.
He needs a very good coach. I don't think his movements and his decision making is good.
He needs to think
He needs to think
@Fortitude Very good post, and I agree with all of it. I tried to formulate something similar in the post above yours, about him running and stretching the oppos defence and how it benefits our other attackers. The coaching thing should be pretty obvious. He’s night and day for us and England.
Happy Birthday Marcus!!
I can't really forget those 2 goals on European debut and follow it up with 2 goals against Arsenal, all in 3 days. Especially given that we just threw a bunch of kids at Arsenal, as rest of the team was injured.
And for an academy lad to do that was an icing on the cake.
I can't really forget those 2 goals on European debut and follow it up with 2 goals against Arsenal, all in 3 days. Especially given that we just threw a bunch of kids at Arsenal, as rest of the team was injured.
And for an academy lad to do that was an icing on the cake.
We took the piss that day. Rashford, TFM and Weir all made their debut against Arsenal in that match and we overran them.
Happy Birthday Marcus 
And I would like to believe Rashford sent Demichilis into retirement when he scored that goal in 2015/16 season 
Only knew it was his birthday because of fifa. Happy birthday, mate.
Hopefully he can bag a goal against Bournemouth.
Hopefully he can bag a goal against Bournemouth.
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Not really that bad, considering he's not a starter and played most games as winger.
EDIT: Iirc all those 6 players are starters.
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Almost fecked that winner too, mistimes the jump. Doesn't put his foot through after it drops for him, thank feck for Adam Smith's shitty clearance.
Also this is the chance he missed earlier, like what the feck?
Also this is the chance he missed earlier, like what the feck?
Redeemed himself haha. Get in lad, but improve your finishing please. 
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And he fecking did.
People can say what they want about him, but he runs his arse off.
Made a difference when he came on. Yes, he should have finished his chance befoew. Was easier to miss, but he continued and got the goal he deserved.
Not a number 9 but much rather he plays than Lukaku that's for sure.
The lads just scored the winner for us. Why focus on negatives? Fecking hell.Almost fecked that winner too, mistimes the jump. Doesn't put his foot through after it drops for him, thank feck for Adam Smith's shitty clearance.
Also this is the chance he missed earlier, like what the feck?
Without a doubt, for instance Lukaku would have fecked up his lay off to that Lingard chance
Good goal for his confidence
Hoo boy he would have had a horrible time had he not scored. That missed chance was fecking ridiculous.
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