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Bolt or Phelps?

Difficult to compare but I'm jut glad to witness them both at their peak. Two of the greatest to ever do it.
Both are amazing, but Phelps probably edges it for me just for the sheer number of medals he has
 

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Both are amazing, but Phelps probably edges it for me just for the sheer number of medals he has
Yeah but if Usain had to run backwards or hop on one leg he'd have 23 gold medals too, probably.
 

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It's one of those things where his legend is going to become even more hyped because people think he never went all out, so speculation will always be rife about his 'real' ceiling.
If he is always proven to be clean that'll be enough.
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If the increments of running went up by 50 to 200, Bolt would just have at least twice the medals, assuming no relay changes.
 

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Bolt does have over the relay and 200m to come. All after a hamstring injury too. Sure he'd rather just win the gold worry about times after.
 

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Yeah I know but you what I mean lol
I think he mightve shaved another few 100ths of a second off that time, but the fact there was absolutely nobody capable of pushing him meant he never really had to. But the sub 9.50 talk is insane, and that was never going to happen
 

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Both are amazing, but Phelps probably edges it for me just for the sheer number of medals he has
A little unfair to compare the two considering Phelps has many more opportunities to notch up medals. Both all time greats for sure though.
 

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Bolt or Phelps?

Difficult to compare but I'm jut glad to witness them both at their peak. Two of the greatest to ever do it.
Everyone runs. Not everyone swims.

Being the fastest runner on the planet is a greater achievement.
 

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Even if Bolt was not clean, he's still clearly a ridiculous athlete. I am very cynical with regard to doping but some things are clear even to the untrained eye and one of those is that Bolt is a one-of-a-kind.
 

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Sort of disappointed in Blake. Thought he would be Bolt's main rival for the rest of his career at one point.
 

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Sort of disappointed in Blake. Thought he would be Bolt's main rival for the rest of his career at one point.
Been through an injury nightmare including hamstring surgery which couldn't have helped.
 

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A little unfair to compare the two considering Phelps has many more opportunities to notch up medals. Both all time greats for sure though.
Yeah I do agree its unfair too, just going on facts, even though they are skewed. Like you say, both all time greats
 

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Bolt probably didn't lose that much time in 2009. His 9.58 is close to his limit, I reckon. Maybe he could have got down to 9.50 in his prime, but then I think his starts have got worse as he's bulked up.



0.81 is the fastest he's ever run 10m. He clearly lost a lot of time in 2008, but not as much when he ran the current WR.
 

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Bolt probably didn't lose that much time in 2009. His 9.58 is close to his limit, I reckon. Maybe he could have got down to 9.50 in his prime, but then I think his starts have got worse as he's bulked up.



0.81 is the fastest he's ever run 10m. He clearly lost a lot of time in 2008, but not as much when he ran the current WR.
This is fabulous data, thanks. Quickest way to settle that debate

So he would've matched the 2009 record at best.. 9.61 seems a more likely finish if you account for his speeds in the 2008 splits

Wonder what the 0-10 looks like for others
 

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Sort of disappointed in Blake. Thought he would be Bolt's main rival for the rest of his career at one point.
He ran that 3rd insane leg in the 4x100m four years ago, to make sure they smashed that WR. He's the only one who's ever really come close to Bolt.
 

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Bolt probably didn't lose that much time in 2009. His 9.58 is close to his limit, I reckon. Maybe he could have got down to 9.50 in his prime, but then I think his starts have got worse as he's bulked up.



0.81 is the fastest he's ever run 10m. He clearly lost a lot of time in 2008, but not as much when he ran the current WR.
Yeah, I always wondered where the 'what if' people come from, he clearly raced through it in 2009 and was in his prime so I doubt he was able to beat that record.
 

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Both are amazing, but Phelps probably edges it for me just for the sheer number of medals he has
Weird thing to compare them by, Bolt doesn't have the same number of events to compete in.
 

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