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Where the feck is he? I really don't want to see the crap Lingard start anymore games at this club.
Cup-tied today. If anyone should be dropped for Adnan after today's performance, it's Mata first. Then Lingard.Where the feck is he? I really don't want to see the crap Lingard start anymore games at this club.
apparently, yes. someone was saying he should be ready for arsenal, though... anyone know anything about that? it was just some random poster in another thread who mentioned it without any source, so who knows.So, is he injured?
I think I appear to be a slightly larger Januzaj fan than I in fact am, as a result of my tagline. And it's true, I do come to his defence on here as well. But I'd like to think that i'm somewhat rational and not anywhere near Mad Winger's level of obsession with Kagawa.@GloryHunter07 @caisenma (who appears to be a fully signed up Januzaj fan boi)
This is what I was going to post in the derailed injuries thread, which was locked:
In the past 1 1/2 seasons he has shown nothing whatsoever to follow up the hype that surrounded him in his first half season. He scored 4 goals, 2 of which were in the one game. He had a marvellous opportunity at Dortmund to show what he was made of and went around like some billy big bollocks telling everyone that he plays for United.
Now, this is the injuries thread, and it is not the place to discuss him, but I am sure that when he is fit he will be given the chance to prove himself. I hope I am wrong, but I don't expect he will be proving anything to anybody at United.
I'm still trying to figure out if the perception of him had a lot to do with that season under Moyes and how bad things got.I don't really see how anybody can say he will or won't make it at present. It's not unusual for a young player to have a bad run of form and he's barely had a look in for the best part of a year. Under the right manager I could still see him becoming a very good player for us.
I don't think the perception has anything down with Moyes or how bad things got. He genuinely was excellent for that few months when he first got into the team. It wasn't about the highlights but the general level of his play. He seemed like such a clever player consistently making the right decisions on the pitch. He seemed to have great vision and really good sense of what was going on around him. This along with his dribbling and lovely weight of passing made it look like all he needed to do was get a bit stronger and nothing would stop him.I'm still trying to figure out if the perception of him had a lot to do with that season under Moyes and how bad things got.
Januzaj clearly has talent but there is just something lacking, I can't put my finger on it. Whether it's attitude or the way he's being trained, he just seems to lack that focus or extra bit of skill that would make him the complete player a lot of us were expecting. Ever since those first few games he played, he has gone backwards and looks discouraged/pissed off. His skill set doesn't seem to be showing any kind of progress and his composure in the few games he's played has often been poor. So I'm not sure if we're overrating Januzaj or by how much. Pereira is a good comparison. He's almost the same age as Januzaj and looks much more assured in the few games he's played with the first team.
Not really how it works.This guy becomes a much better player when he's not playing.
LVG has given several players a lot of freedom to do their own thing. Di Maria last season and Memphis this season for example. To get the best out of Januzaj, he needs to be given the ball and be told to take responsibility for creating something (and do a decent job defensively). I still think he's a huge talent but he really needs a manager that believes in him.I think he played so well under Moyes because of the way the team was set up. Moyes, didn't really give any sort of tactical instructions or had any sort of structure in attack for his players. This was a great environment for Januzaj to use his instinct and talent to just go out and play and flourish. The problem is, most top managers will have tactical roles for their attacking players and will have them follow patterns and movements within the system.
This is where Januzaj seems to struggle. He cant deal with a tactically disciplined role where he has a responsibility to do a job. This is especially noticeable under Van Gaal and is why he failed at Dortmund (Their attackers all have roles to fill). Its up to Januzaj to start working on flourishing under a tactical responsibility and unless he does, he will never be a top player.
Aye. Looked confident today.Thought he did well when he came on today. Maybe it was because of the whole feel of everyone today, but he showed confidence in the brief time he had and had good moments. Hopefully he can see all the others taking their chances and get some belief back that he can do the same.
I don't really think Mata has been the worst thing for him and I think they could play well together. The worst thing has been the style of play. Slow, tumescent stuff where he always got the ball at a standing start and was expected to try take on a man which isn't his game. Just like Memphis, we can see a huge difference now that their is some tempo and movement in our play and they aren't just given the ball wide and expected to do something with it on their own. Adnan fits right into this style and would link up great with Mata, Memphis etc. This trying to mould him into a high flying winger Giggs reincarnation has been the worst thing for Adnan's development as he just simply isn't that player and it is madness to expect him to be.In terms of performances, Januzaj has been no worse than Mata, yet one starts almost every game while the other gets to sit on the bench and sent out on loan. Buying Mata was the worst thing that could happen for Januzaj and hasn't helped United in the slightest.
Completely agree. Even if he had the technical skills for the role, he simply does not have the pace to be a Giggs-type player. He's a 10, or a wide play-maker drifting in from the right a la Mata.I don't really think Mata has been the worst thing for him and I think they could play well together. The worst thing has been the style of play. Slow, tumescent stuff where he always got the ball at a standing start and was expected to try take on a man which isn't his game. Just like Memphis, we can see a huge difference now that their is some tempo and movement in our play and they aren't just given the ball wide and expected to do something with it on their own. Adnan fits right into this style and would link up great with Mata, Memphis etc. This trying to mould him into a high flying winger Giggs reincarnation has been the worst thing for Adnan's development as he just simply isn't that player and it is madness to expect him to be.
Agreed. The sky is the limit for Adnan but only if he sorts himself out. Maybe he has already.If he had the hunger and determination of some of our other young players he'd be in the team every week. Hope he can sort his head out and reach his potential.
That's what I'm hoping for, he'd add a fresh threat to the forward line and Lingard certainly looks like he could use a rest, the squad is so thin it makes sense to filter in 1 or 2 changes when possible to try and avoid wearing out the players we have left.I'd play him on the right and rest Lingard on Wednesday who looks shattered.
Anyone got a gif of him going past 3 defenders or so near the left flank corner? That was amazing.
That vid shows so much quality. The way Fosah-Mensah steals the ball, Januzaj going through three players and then Mata's little flick. wow