Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

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May be we should do a voting for next draft ? After the monopoly draft I would like a more straightforward draft with no cards/surprise rounds etc, hopefully not much luck involved at all. So either the 4-way or physio's no-mate draft sound good to me.
 

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Things have finally started to settled down a bit so please count me in for whatever the next draft is.
 

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I'm in for whatever draft is next, vote for auction though.
 

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1. Edgar's 4-Way Draft
2. Chester's Unproven Draft
3. Edgar's Auction Draft
4. Physiocrat's No Mates 46-66 Draft -Physio,
5. Tuppet's chain Draft

Choose one.
I'd love to play the next one. Could someone explain or quote how each of these drafts work.
 

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Edgar's 4 Way - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/next-draft-idea-discussion.403961/page-89#post-21092406
Chester's Nonproven - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/next-draft-idea-discussion.403961/page-90#post-21133485
Edgar's Auction: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/next-draft-idea-discussion.403961/page-91#post-21242304
Physio's No Mate - With the decades mentioned (46-66) you should pick a team, but none of your players can have played with each other in club/NT.
Tuppet's Chain - Flip side of No mates Draft. You can only pick a player who has played with your previous pick.
 

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I'd love to play the next one. Could someone explain or quote how each of these drafts work.
Sure thing, will quote an older post of mine.

There is no such thing as regulars having the spots or anything mate, anyone is open to joining and it's just a fun (and at time informative) game.

Initially you have the drafting process (depending on the draft - snake, sheep, auction or heck even a monopoly one which is going on right now). Then after everyone has their sides, you generally have knockout games where you square up against another drafter.

Links to all the drafts that's gone on here.

Draft I: Cal?'s - New Fantasy Draft (Winner: Cal?)
Draft II: Polaroid's - Retro Fantasy Draft - all players born in 60s (Winner: Polaroid)
Draft III: Cal?'s - 70s Fantasy Draft (Winner: Cling Bak)
Draft IV: Polaroid's - Man Utd Legends Draft (Winner: DanNistelrooy)
Draft V: Brwned's - 50s Fantasy Draft (Winner: Brwned)
Draft VI: Polaroid's Premier League 20 Season Draft (Winner: Gio)
Draft VII: antohan's All -Time Fantasy Draft (Winner: antohan)
Draft VIII: Theon's - Champions League Draft (Winner: Gio)
Draft IX: Aldo's - Decades Draft (Winner: Theon)
Draft X: The Next Generation Draft (Winner: NM/Snow)
Draft XI: World Cup All Time All Stars Draft (Winner: Annahnomoss)
Draft XII: Aldo's - Sheep Draft (Winner: Gio)
Draft XIII: Polaroid's - Transfer Muppet Draft (Winner: MJJ)
Draft XIIV: Annahnomoss's - Auction Draft (Winner: Cutch/Annah)
Draft XV: rpitroda's - Criteria Draft (Winner: Aldo)
Draft XVI: EAP's - Reality Draft (Winner: antohan)
Draft XVII: Annahnomoss's - Managers Draft (Winner: EAP)
Draft XVIII: crappycraperson's - British Irish Draft (Winner: MJJ)
Draft XIX: EAP's - Modern Era Draft (Winner: Theon)
Draft XX: Skizzo's - Second Sheep Draft (Winner: Cutch)
Draft XXI: Balu's - Euro Draft (Winner: Joga Bonito)
Draft XXII: Annahnomoss's - All Time Auction Draft (Winner: Cal?)
Draft XXIII: Skizzo's All Time Premier League Draft (Winner: Skizzo/Pat)
Draft XXIV: EAP's Chain Draft (Winner: The Stain)
Draft XXV: Aldo's 40s Retro Draft (Winner: Gio/Theon)
Draft XXVI: Gio's Third Redcafe Sheep Draft (Winner: Stobzilla)
Draft XXVII: Physiocrat's Billy No Mates Draft (Winner: Joga Bonito/Gio)
Draft XXVIII: Marty1968's Three Leagues Draft (Winner: Enigma_87/Snow)
Draft XXIX: Aldo's Reserves Draft (Winner: RedTiger/Joga Bonito/Balu)
Draft XXX: Joga's Remake Draft (Winner: Gio)
Draft XXXI: EAP's Double Draft (Winner: harms)
Draft XXXII: Chesterlestreet's Americas Draft (Winner: Enigma87/Joga Bonito)
Draft XXXIII: EAP/anto's Las Vegas Monopoly Draft (Winner: Jayvin)
Draft XXXIV: Physiocrat's Surveillance Draft (Winner: Tuppet)
Draft XXXV: harms's Eastern European Draft (Winner: Skizzo/Annahnomoss)
Draft XXXVI: Stain/anto's Fourth Sheep Draft (Winner: Downcast)
Draft XXXVII: Annahnomoss/green_smiley's International Peak Draft (Winner: Enigma_87)
Draft XXXVIII: Sjor's Tactical Draft (Winner: TBC)


https://www.redcafe.net/search/62425913/?q=draft&o=date&c[title_only]=1&c[node]=7

You can check out the games here too if you'd like.
 

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1. Edgar's 4-Way Draft MOBY
2. Chester's Unproven Draft MOBY
3. Edgar's Auction Draft MOBY
4. Physiocrat's No Mates 46-66 Draft -Physio, MOBY
5. Tuppet's chain Draft MOBY

Choose one. MOBY
 

Enigma_87

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I probably like Edgars 4 way best as it's something fresh and in for that one.
 

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The 4-Way Draft:

16 managers will be split into 4 groups of 4 each. Each group will have separate restrictions:

Group A: Clubs
Draft Managers in this group can only pick players who played for the respective club of their choice.

Group B: Managers
Draft Managers in this group can only pick players who played for the respective manager of their choice.

Group C: Country
Draft Managers in this group can only pick players who played for the respective country of their choice.

Group D: Decades
Draft Managers in this group can only pick players who played in the decade of their choice.

It would be a direct elimination style draft.

1 vs 2 | 2 vs 4 within each group. Winners play each other to get a Group Winner.
Club Winner vs Country Winner | Managers Winner vs Decade Winner
Finals!

All reinforcements will have to follow the initial restrictions.

Opinions?


Note: If managers is a tight pool, I can expand and permit 2 managers per draft player (overlaps permitted)
So opinions? Do you think the pools are balanced enough? Maybe open managers to 2x managers per player?
 

Enigma_87

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Probably 2x managers per player.

Decade is by far the best pool - it gives you most options.
 

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Decade is by far the best pool - it gives you most options.
You may have overlaps. For example 2 people may choose the same decade, which make it more dicier.

I don't mind hiking it up to 3 managers too, though feel that'd be a bit too much.

Maybe Pick Top 2 manager pools and open it up as common which you get in addition to your own chosen 2 managers.
 

Šjor Bepo

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maybe swap manager pool with the league pool....
 

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You may have overlaps. For example 2 people may choose the same decade, which make it more dicier.

I don't mind hiking it up to 3 managers too, though feel that'd be a bit too much.

Maybe Pick Top 2 manager pools and open it up as common which you get in addition to your own chosen 2 managers.
Yeah indeed, but the biggest pool definitely is the decade as it stands - it will overlap 3 generation of players, even with multiple managers choosing the same decade.

The way I see it you have decades pool - you choose the 80's and that's players who are ending their careers in the early 80's, at the peak of their powers in the mid 80's and all the young ones emerging in the later part of the decade.

Whilst if someone chooses a manager if we take 2 of them (possible overlaps as well) your looking at around 200 players pool at best (including fringe players) for a good 10-15 years career at top level per manager.
 

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It will be seriously overlapping with the club's one.
thats the point isnt it? You pick someone that screws as many others as possible.....maybe keep it as it is and help the manager group in other ways(give them first pick or picks or let them choose a position in the draft order or something like that).

Dont like the two manager idea, somehow it ruins the spirit of the draft IMO
They will have the hardest job but probably the most enjoyful ride....
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thats the point isnt it? You pick someone that screws as many others as possible.....maybe keep it as it is and help the manager group in other ways(give them first pick or picks or let them choose a position in the draft order or something like that).

Dont like the two manager idea, somehow it ruins the spirit of the draft IMO
They will have the hardest job but probably the most enjoyful ride....
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The point is - the league managers would have access to many club's pools, which will give them an unfair advantage over the club managers.
Imagine - you only have United pool and your opponent can pick literally anyone who you can, plus any player from Aesenal/Liverpool etc squad
 

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With the decades criteria will only the peak from that decade count?

E.g. If I pick 90s Maradona he won't be as good as the 80s version.

To avoid this maybe decades of birth may be better?
 

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The point is - the league managers would have access to many club's pools, which will give them an unfair advantage over the club managers.
Imagine - you only have United pool and your opponent can pick literally anyone who you can, plus any player from Aesenal/Liverpool etc squad
Yeah indeed. Not to mention that league pool would immediately be the biggest one and also overlaps to a big extend with the country one.
 

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The point is - the league managers would have access to many club's pools, which will give them an unfair advantage over the club managers.
Imagine - you only have United pool and your opponent can pick literally anyone who you can, plus any player from Aesenal/Liverpool etc squad
point taken, crap suggestion.
 

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With the decades criteria will only the peak from that decade count?

E.g. If I pick 90s Maradona he won't be as good as the 80s version.

To avoid this maybe decades of birth may be better?
It's usually birth decades.